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01-08-2018 , 09:54 PM
Blah, blah, blah... Once again who gives a flying **** whether the intelligence that you are playing is human or ''artificial''? Why do you care and why does it matter? Especially when they essentially still suck and play the same, which just means that they are highly exploitable?

If you can never even see your opponent while you are playing why does it matter to you in the slightest whether said unseen intelligence is human, ''artificial'', or even alien for that matter?
01-08-2018 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WorldzMine
Especially when they essentially still suck and play the same, which just means that they are highly exploitable?
lol
01-14-2018 , 11:08 PM
They got bots all over the site. i posted screen shots same bots still play. I sent so much info to acr its like full blown proof of bots and the same players keep playing. So i left the site finally. I gave up arguing with them about it. If acr doesn't know these are bots then they have no clue how to run a poker site properly. They need some poker related people running the site so they can clean it up. They must have business men running it. The ceo is no poker grinder. He has no clue what it is like to play a bot but we do. He said he would clean it up I have not seen any of them gone yet. So who knows when they will clean it up. So many complaints its kind of obvious they have a ton of bots on the site. We aren't all paranoid. I play on carbon and global now and there is no bots they are all real players. I guess i am just paranoid on acr
01-14-2018 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrash370
We were talking about a bot ring which in theory would not involved all in EV. A collusion bot ring (an accusation to this point no one had made) is another story.

20k hand sample is a one day grind for me and many others. If the equivalent of a one day sample is enough to sway you, online is not for you.
I do agree with this bots have nothing to do with all in ev. But collusion bots would.
01-14-2018 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Derp!
Figures. I'm curious though, why aren't there bots at $5/10+?
Bots can't beat world class players only weak to average regs who have leaks in their game. And a world class player will know they are a bot pretty quickly and report them and the site would have to take the complaint more serious from a world class player then some micro blind player.
01-15-2018 , 12:44 AM
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Originally Posted by iburydoscocaroaches
Bots can't beat world class players only weak to average regs who have leaks in their game. And a world class player will know they are a bot pretty quickly and report them and the site would have to take the complaint more serious from a world class player then some micro blind player.
This site doesn’t care about bots. This isn’t PokerStars.
01-15-2018 , 03:44 AM
Carl why do you still post or even check the thread when you openly admitted you dont play here anymore. As to bots cant beat world class players... There have been many names sent to me which get investigated. I dont know how many times i can say this but just because you think its a BOT it doesnt mean it is.

There are humans in eastern europe that play poker and dont talk in chat.
01-15-2018 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
Carl why do you still post or even check the thread when you openly admitted you dont play here anymore. As to bots cant beat world class players... There have been many names sent to me which get investigated. I dont know how many times i can say this but just because you think its a BOT it doesnt mean it is.

There are humans in eastern europe that play poker and dont talk in chat.
Because I enjoy posting things to warn others. Many things are done right but a lot is wrong. Sorry buddy
01-15-2018 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
Carl why do you still post or even check the thread when you openly admitted you dont play here anymore. As to bots cant beat world class players... There have been many names sent to me which get investigated. I dont know how many times i can say this but just because you think its a BOT it doesnt mean it is.

There are humans in eastern europe that play poker and dont talk in chat.
Carl reads and posts same reason many of us do. We like the idea of ACR and we want it to work, but we dont like the lack of adequate security measures to stop rampant bots and collusion. You wouldn't hear complaints or gripes if people didn't care. Its the fact that we do care and we see soo much potential. Unfortunately that isn't reality, I assume the $$ right now is too good for ACR to fix the leaks...
01-15-2018 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
There are humans in eastern europe that play poker and dont talk in chat.
Looks like everyone here is only concerned about the ones with identical stats over large samples of hands.
01-15-2018 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FreshThyme
Looks like everyone here is only concerned about the ones with identical stats over large samples of hands.
Can the screennames be outed in this thread please? I'd like to
check against the stats I have.
01-16-2018 , 10:44 AM
these bots still doing their 8 hour shifts


one will leave then 10-20 minutes later the next one will show up, everytime without fail


guess they passed the world class security software, the captcha
01-18-2018 , 10:10 PM
There is most definitely three of them.

C -> SG -> RW , repeat.
01-19-2018 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by PSachs
There is most definitely three of them.

C -> SG -> RW , repeat.
They have identical stats. They're clearly either the same person or the same bot. And if it's a person, he's severely sleep deprived.
01-19-2018 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Winning_TD
I dont know how many times i can say this but just because you think its a BOT it doesnt mean it is.

There are humans in eastern europe that play poker and dont talk in chat.
The "not talking" isn't what makes people suspicious.

It's the fact that they never time down to make decisions (the ones at 10PLO never even take more than a 1-2 seconds regardless of the street/previous action/number of tables they're playing, even when they're heads up on multiple tables) along with the fact that they're raping the games for 20BB/100 over large samples in a high rake environment.

Last edited by clfst17; 01-19-2018 at 10:27 AM.
01-29-2018 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PSachs
There is most definitely three of them.

C -> SG -> RW , repeat.
exactly. i guess WPN literally doesn't care about botting on their site. absolutely nothing has been done about these or the nl bots. i've only looked at 2 different stakes and found plenty so who knows how many more there are.
01-29-2018 , 04:25 PM
theyve got some reasonable winrates for such a highly raked game









01-29-2018 , 06:03 PM
I only just got back into PLO on WPN, and in my small sample with SG + RW (3k hands on each), they have near identical stats.

Also, what Russian drinks rum? Dead giveaway right there.

-B
01-30-2018 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by shutdown
theyve got some reasonable winrates for such a highly raked game










Winning_TD, any comment on this?

The 3 players above are playing identically, never timing down, and crushing the games (post-rake) yet they're mysteriously not moving up in stakes.
02-02-2018 , 08:51 PM
I'm curious how anyone knows the suspect accounts, or any accounts for that matter are eastern european? I cannot see on ACR any locations..
02-03-2018 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by KidKash
I'm curious how anyone knows the suspect accounts, or any accounts for that matter are eastern european? I cannot see on ACR any locations..
Just double click on their name plate. A few skins don't show the location but most do.
02-03-2018 , 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by shutdown
theyve got some reasonable winrates for such a highly raked game









lol ffs

You can add a few more names to that list at those stakes as well
02-03-2018 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by D1G1TALFOX


14:14 . . .


Someone posted this in the 44bars thread in NVG, I'm glad Joey is talking about this more and more.
02-03-2018 , 04:44 PM
I'm pretty sure they share the same cash game and sng/tourney player pool. I know some skins only share the tourney player pool but I think that's the much smaller skins. So ya at some point you will probably be playing bots if all this is true which it seems there is a decent amount of truth to it with so many players analyzing certain players and coming to the same conclusion.
02-03-2018 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
Someone posted this in the 44bars thread in NVG, I'm glad Joey is talking about this more and more.
Joey naming names and that the problem can be found at all stakes. Apparently WPN is indifferent judging from their perceived lack of response.

      
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