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04-12-2015 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
I had no interest in arguing. I directly addressed an issue, something that you wanted people to do. Something you still haven't addressed... so again..

What makes you feel like you should be allowed to clear a big deposit bonus playing micro stakes? You are still clearing parts of it, so you are still getting that extra rb equivalent, but why should it be at all easy to clear a large bonus at the micro stakes? The terms were pretty clear if you read what was posted on the website what it would take to clear.
Oh ok so you're stance is that a micros player doesn't deserve to clear a $200 deposit bonus. Why can I on Intertops, FullFlush, and BetOnline then? What makes WPN different?
04-12-2015 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
Nor am I going to. If you want to figure that out, by all means have at it.
So again you admit this thread serves no purpose and should be closed.
04-12-2015 , 05:05 PM
Cliffs:

OP is a dolt
OP wears tinfoil hats
OP refuses to acknowledge the truth
OP refuses to acknowledge anything that disproves his rigtard theories
OP probably bad at poker
OP can go **** himself
04-12-2015 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
Oh ok so you're stance is that a micros player doesn't deserve to clear a $200 deposit bonus. Why can I on Intertops, FullFlush, and BetOnline then? What makes WPN different?
No his stance is what makes you think you have the right to clear said bonus.
04-12-2015 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
Oh ok so you're stance is that a micros player doesn't deserve to clear a $200 deposit bonus. Why can I on Intertops, FullFlush, and BetOnline then? What makes WPN different?
Because they choose to structure their bonus in that way.

Most players don't have rakeback on Full Flush and no one has rakeback on BetOnline, so it's easier for them to offer bonuses that clear faster. Intertops lacks traffic, so they need to do what they can to promote any action they can.

You still get your 27% rakeback plus whatever you can earn for the bonus. I think it comes out to something like 40% rakeback equivalent.

If you don't like the terms of the bonus, which are very clear, then either deposit what you can actually clear or don't take the bonus at all.
04-12-2015 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk
Cliffs:

OP is a dolt
OP wears tinfoil hats
OP refuses to acknowledge the truth
OP refuses to acknowledge anything that disproves his rigtard theories
OP probably bad at poker
OP can go **** himself
^ Once again: TOTAL lack of moderation on these forums.
04-12-2015 , 05:09 PM
I'm shocked this thread isn't locked... it should be, because it's basically "the site is rigged, but i have zero evidence..."

WPN has issues, but rigging isn't one of them.
04-12-2015 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
Because they choose to structure their bonus in that way.
So, like you, because they can. I see your logic in things.

Well, certainly no harm in spreading the word to any micros players who are considering depositing here that the bonus doesn't really apply to them. That's at least one great thing the thread brought forward.

Let's give it a few days without trolling, screaming and yelling, and acting like babies. Who knows how much good it could do. Locking it or hiding it is only going to make it look MORE suspect. Obviously.

I already have a record of the thread posted to other forums. It's not going anywhere.
04-12-2015 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
Oh ok so you're stance is that a micros player doesn't deserve to clear a $200 deposit bonus. Why can I on Intertops, FullFlush, and BetOnline then? What makes WPN different?
BOL bonus actually clear at just under 20%, so it clears at w rose rate than the WPN bonus if you are not on rakeback. If you are on rakeback on WPN, then your bonus+ rakeback clears at about 40% which is 100% higher than BOL.
04-12-2015 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by A_Schupick
I'm shocked this thread isn't locked... it should be, because it's basically "the site is rigged, but i have zero evidence..."

WPN has issues, but rigging isn't one of them.
What if someone came forward in three or four days with undeniable proof that the site is "rigged"? Would you admit you were wrong?

I'm just curious.
04-12-2015 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by A_Schupick
BOL bonus actually clear at just under 20%, so it clears at w rose rate than the WPN bonus if you are not on rakeback. If you are on rakeback on WPN, then your bonus+ rakeback clears at about 40% which is 100% higher than BOL.
No, I'm sorry. I've already released $15 of a $100 bonus on BetOnline in just under 10k hands. In 10K hands on WPN I haven't cleared even half of one $5 increment yet.
04-12-2015 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
What if someone came forward in three or four days with undeniable proof that the site is "rigged"? Would you admit you were wrong?

I'm just curious.
And if nobody comes forth with said undeniable proof, will you admit you're wrong?
04-12-2015 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
What if someone came forward in three or four days with undeniable proof that the site is "rigged"? Would you admit you were wrong?

I'm just curious.
Waiting on this one. Let me guess: This user has suddenly remembered they have back surgery in 20 minutes.
04-12-2015 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by glutenfree
And if nobody comes forth with said undeniable proof, will you admit you're wrong?
You do realize I wasn't talking to you, right? Seems rude to not let the person who I was talking to actually answer before you interrupt to ask me a different question.
04-12-2015 , 05:18 PM
Moderators still refuse to clarify if Otatop committed an infraction. Obviously, out of fear of me immediately turning around and telling them the same thing. Very mature bunch of guys running 2p2. Are these volunteers from middle school?
04-12-2015 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
edit: Also, it is entirely possible to lock this thread (which seems likely at this point) and then the p5s guys can create a new thread when they actually have information to share. Even if they don't post on 2+2, if the information actually shows something, it will be everywhere in less than a day.
^^^This
04-12-2015 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
No, I'm sorry. I've already released $15 of a $100 bonus on BetOnline in just under 10k hands. In 10K hands on WPN I haven't cleared even half of one $5 increment yet.
I look forward to your future freakout post when you find out BetOnline doesn't like players cashing out.
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
Waiting on this one. Let me guess: This user has suddenly remembered they have back surgery in 20 minutes.
3 whole minutes since you posted that and no reply. A_Schupick should be infracted for not replying to you faster, it's certainly against the forum rules.

Last edited by otatop; 04-12-2015 at 05:23 PM. Reason: typed wrong username, oopsie doopsies
04-12-2015 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
So, like you, because they can. I see your logic in things.

Well, certainly no harm in spreading the word to any micros players who are considering depositing here that the bonus doesn't really apply to them. That's at least one great thing the thread brought forward.

Let's give it a few days without trolling, screaming and yelling, and acting like babies. Who knows how much good it could do. Locking it or hiding it is only going to make it look MORE suspect. Obviously.

I already have a record of the thread posted to other forums. It's not going anywhere.
Yes. It is their business.. of course they can offer the bonus as they see fit. Why wouldn't they?

Bonuses do apply to micro players.. you just aren't likely to clear the entire thing. Pots are too small and rake paid is small at micros..so of course you aren't likely to clear it all.

What is there to be suspect about? A thread with no evidence of anything was closed. People with actual evidence are more than welcome to make a post, and the entire poker world would be all over seeing something that showed a site may be rigged.

And who cares if you have a record of this thread? What does this even mean? Like.. if this thread gets deleted, then 2+2 is obviously trying to cover something up? Even though we have a GREAT BIG thread about people saying poker sites are rigged... a thread where NOT ONE PERSON has ever brought-forth credible evidence. Credible evidence would be MORE than welcomed here.

I'll even make this offer.. if the p5s guys come up with credible evidence, post it in the Beginners Forum and I will personally make sure that it isn't deleted, trolled, or derailed.
04-12-2015 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by glutenfree
^^^This
No, see locking it would only inspire more threads for several months. Let's keep it neat and in one place.
04-12-2015 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
You do realize I wasn't talking to you, right? Seems rude to not let the person who I was talking to actually answer before you interrupt to ask me a different question.
No answer to the question? Shocking... I know it's one you can't answer because either way the answer isn't to your liking.

And no, it's not "rude", this is still an open thread. I can pose a question to you even if you don't like the question because it paints you into a corner you can't escape from.
04-12-2015 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
Moderators still refuse to clarify if Otatop committed an infraction. Obviously, out of fear of me immediately turning around and telling them the same thing. Very mature bunch of guys running 2p2. Are these volunteers from middle school?
Bobo did reply to this, fwiw.
04-12-2015 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
Yes. It is their business.. of course they can offer the bonus as they see fit. Why wouldn't they?

Bonuses do apply to micro players.. you just aren't likely to clear the entire thing. Pots are too small and rake paid is small at micros..so of course you aren't likely to clear it all.

What is there to be suspect about? A thread with no evidence of anything was closed. People with actual evidence are more than welcome to make a post, and the entire poker world would be all over seeing something that showed a site may be rigged.

And who cares if you have a record of this thread? What does this even mean? Like.. if this thread gets deleted, then 2+2 is obviously trying to cover something up? Even though we have a GREAT BIG thread about people saying poker sites are rigged... a thread where NOT ONE PERSON has ever brought-forth credible evidence. Credible evidence would be MORE than welcomed here.

I'll even make this offer.. if the p5s guys come up with credible evidence, post it in the Beginners Forum and I will personally make sure that it isn't deleted, trolled, or derailed.
You really aren't aware that other sites make fun of you, the moderators of 2p2? I'm just asking: You weren't aware that this site has a notorious reputation of being moderated entirely unfairly? This very thread has been a pure example of such. Do you know how many people just watched you embarrass yourself in the thread? You're a moderator - you're not supposed to be dragged down to a poster's level. How is anyone supposed to respect your authority after you put on a clown suit and entertain everyone on Sunday afternoon like you did here?
04-12-2015 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
Moderators still refuse to clarify if Otatop committed an infraction.
Bobo did clarify it, you're just illiterate:
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
As for your question about forum rules, I'm not sure if you think there's a handbook for every possible thing a person might say and a corresponding consequence - there isn't. Generally speaking, I might cruise right by a "go **** yourself" comment in these forums without doing anything, or I might delete it. If it was someone constantly causing a problem, they might get an infraction - a lot of it depends on context. If it was in reply to someone taking a piece out of them, it probably just gets deleted, as it did here.

And FWIW, I'm sure many comments like that, or worse, can be found in the rigged thread in IP. Welcome to the Internet, where people are mean to each other sometimes, and we don't moderate every instance of it. I'm sorry to have to tell you that your thread about your thoughts on WPN isn't so high content that we police every post.
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Obviously, out of fear of me immediately turning around and telling them the same thing. Very mature bunch of guys running 2p2. Are these volunteers from middle school?
Seems reeeeeeeeally stupid to keep saying dumb **** like this when you should (by the rules) already be banned, you know?
04-12-2015 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ice_W0lf
Bobo did reply to this, fwiw.
Oh, that's right. He admitted that he may ignore it sometimes and other times not. Depends on how he feels.

Great moderation.
04-12-2015 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenBliss420
No, I'm sorry. I've already released $15 of a $100 bonus on BetOnline in just under 10k hands. In 10K hands on WPN I haven't cleared even half of one $5 increment yet.
You are doing your calcs wrong. it doesn't matter how many hands you play, it matters how much you rake.

You have cleared $15 on BOL

You cleared $5 on WPN, but how much in rakeback have you gotten during the same time? That is figured into the clearance rate. Further, how much in rake have you paid at Chico Network? They have higher rake.

      
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