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Originally Posted by AirborneSapper9845
I've been playing and winning DONs since they first started. I was colluded against on PokerStars by the Chinese folks and spotted it pretty quick.
There is certainly no smoking gun in the hand example in the above link.
In dankhank's 2 examples, the first hand is badly played but I've seen many many hands played like that. I'm always suspicious when I see a player make that move too but ego driven players often play like that. If he had shoved with 63o that would have been a different story.
In the second example, I would have folded too. There is no way in the world that I'm going to turn a sure win into a possible loss no matter what pot odds I'm getting. It was a failed steal. Actually a call with anything less than AA, KK or QQ would have made me suspicious.
None of Vookenmeister's examples are suspicious at all, and not to offend Vookenmeister but I don't think that he has a really good grasp of ICM.
I'm not saying that those guys aren't cheating, just that those examples in that thread just don't cut it as evidence. I think that the far more damning evidence is that they started and stopped playing at the same time if that chart is accurate.
I'd also like to mention that I don't play 6 max DONs and I would highly recommend that players stay away from them. 6 Max sitngos in general are the most susceptible games for collusion. Merge is actually the least susceptible site for collusion because Merge both allows databases and shows mucked cards, something that none of the other large US poker sites currently do.