Yeah but it's still really profitable, I love it.

Sure I theoretically will FT less often, but I'll have a deeper stack at the FT more often, and there'll be more money in the prize pool.

Sounds great to me.

They should add a couple freezeouts as well.

True.

You're describing tournament poker in general. You should play cash games if you want truly deep stacked play. Wanted less late reg and willing to give up bigger prize pools just so that you have a few less short stacked players at your table doesn't make sense. If you can range players properly you should be thrilled as getting the money in as a 60%+ favorite is EXTREMELY profitable long term.

I also do not find that it "plays like bingo" in the third hour in general since you have a good mix of deeper stacked players with shorter stacked players.

yes it makes it longer but not a full hr longer. But a tourney taking longer to finish means that there are more players.

This is the downside of bigger tourneys but IMO the upside is much better.


I am open to the argument that it could hurt games b/c fish can just dump 5 buy ins and go broke more quickly but every other issue could be fixed by overall better MTT scheduling, a separate issue

Yes, please dispose of 3 hour late reg. If you want to keep it for your biggest buy-ins for special tournies, that fine. But for $10, $5 or $3 that play throughout the day please drop reg to 1 hour. 3 hours just isn't poker anymore. I didn't come here to argue. Just want to play tourney poker.

Signed two hours was too much. Three is silly. I understand the 50k but this site is getting boarder line unplayable. If the new Merge Schedule is good and Intertops opens back up I don't see how I can really play more. I wanna play here cause I'm a loyal and I like the people that run this site but man is it hard to play on here.

If you aren't a fan of extended late reg/re entry then you aren't gonna like the new Merge schedule much. Some of the reg week day mtts have re entry for up to 3hours45mins.

We can fight against it but site operators aren't gonna miss out on all that extra rake, no matter how much we bitch.

TBH I'd rather prefer the multi entry format that tilt offer for a while. Now that was fun.

Multi entry would be great, but they've got a a lot of other features to get done on the software end. But I couldn't see recreational players liking it much, and on such a small pool of players I'd like it limited to just 2 entries at a time...

Now that I think about it yeah it'd be fun, but I don't think it could work well on WPN, the play base is just too small to support it IMO.

I could live with these.. If some more "regular" tourneys were in the mix.

A decent amount of tourneys on merge are 1 rebuy 1 add on. So there is no re-enter and less rake. Also the rebuy on there aren't two hours or rebuys. Its really only the big GTDs that have the crazy re-entry time.

I petition against this petition.

I would sign that.

Maybe 3 hours for flagship events and maybe big nightlies but for everything else 1.5-2 hours would be perfect.

at this point i don't even care, as long as i'm making $$$

I think they should create a LIKE button for posts ;-)

Cant do a thing with it crashing

I agree

2. Look up Nash Equilibrium, you lose EV, if your calls are too tight or too loose. (best case is hope to break even calling a perfect range against a shove range, whilst throwing a whole bunch or variance into the mix)

3. If you think that, almost being in the money when the reg ends, will not effect whether people just buy in and shove, then you prolly havent played any of the super sattys.
And,if you think that's a good thing, see #2 for why it is not.

It's like Christmas come early when this happens.

I personally wont be playing very many of the $5 and $10 dollars tourney as normal tourneys. I will be reg'n them level 11 or so and treating them like a rebuy, fully expecting to fire off multi bullets. (the higher buy in ones prolly wont, kinda like how higher buyin rebuys play differently then the smaller buyin ones.. though I've had success doing this in some of the $20/$25 dollar ones)

to illustrate earlier point.. above#2/3
i'll give you my BTN shove range at 10bbs
22+ Ax+ K2s+ K8o+ Q6s+ Q9o+ J7s+ J9o+ T7s+ T9o 96s+ 86s+ 75s+ 65s

ENJOY your variance..

I'm not sure why, with some people liking this format, and some not, why some of the old format tourneys arent re added, ( like live support assured would happen two weeks ago).
MY major problem with all of this is: there are not enough tourneys anymore (overall), and the variety that existed before (preferred) is now gone replaced by only NASH shove fests.

All that being said. I doubt anyone's opinion will be changed and this is just a waste of time.. I should just go make to making adjustments for the games that are offered and whatever, Pick the tourneys I prefer playing in and the sites that offer them.

I like the 3 hour late reg. I like tables being repopulated with short stacks. I like getting passed the bubble and short stack fallout phase with more chips and being able to play some real actual deep stack poker on final tables instead of the routine shove Ax vs pp showdown all in. Im against this petitition. Keep the 3 hour late on the 15 minute blind level tourneys.

DO you think that the site would be better with these tourneys only?
or These tourneys with a bunch of other types (ie some of the old ones)?

I would try and satisfy everybody. Different structures.

Why is best case you break even? You're assuming that they are shoving perfectly which is far from true. It would only be break even if they are shoving perfectly and you are calling perfectly. The added variance is true but you can find very +EV spots.