OMG...is this guy for real?

I will try to explain this even slower...maybe even spaced out a bit.

The $2500.00 $10 dollar tournament started at 5pm est........thats 3pm est for me and 2 pm for west coasters.

You with me so far?

With a 3 hour reg....it will reg from 5-8 for East coasters. So anyone on the east coast can register between the hours of 5-7 with no larger Big Blind issues.

People in the west coast dont even get to play this tournament if they work till 5.

Lets say west coast gets home at 4....they have to register with 10bbs. Lets say West Coast does not want to register with 10bbs....THEY don't get to play it then.

Lets say WPN changed the starting time of the 2500 to 7PM est....

That would be 5pm West Coast time....

West Coast could then come home....and register for the same good tourney as EAST Coast and have the same advantage.

Now....I know as a fact that east coasters are regging for tournies at 7pm every night. (12.5K) and so on...so why cant this tournament be moved to a time for flexible for midwest and west coast?

Does this make sense to you? Do you understand how its NOT the 3 hour reg effecting us its the START time????

OK buddy, quit being a condescending jerk.

You're in the petition to end 3 hour late registration thread, it's only natural to assume you're talking about the registration period.

I didn't come here and read every post you made before I was in, so maybe that was a bad assumption, but then go post in the appropriate thread.

And they moved start times back an hour, which seems to be an ok compromise.... maybe not as much as you'd like, but it's tough for them to please everyone. Push it too much, and we can't play on the East Coast, don't do enough, you can't on the West.

Go to the right thread and quit acting immature. You responded to my ost about late registration times, I don't understand how you think I could possibly have read your mind and known you were talking about something off topic.

Oh, and BTW, the way you structure your posts makes it ridiculously annoying to read.

Fair enough on the "what thread are we in" argument....but you and I were going back and forth in this thread and it was as if you weren't reading anything I was writing.

If they moved the 2500 from 5pm to 4pm..that just makes it worse than before for west coasters. Our argument is we want to play with fair blinds..yours is (in the other thread)..you want to not be hungover or something like that. Cmon man.
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TBH....Im done arguing this with anyone.. Its their site I just play on it. I will go back to being a sheep and take what I can get.

glgl See you on the felt sir.

I was just trying to find, by any means necessary, a way for you to understand.

You still don't.

No, see, I do get it. You're just so frustrated that you can't even see that I agreed with you on this, I'm just saying that they need to find the right balance.

And that part of my post was a joke, bro, something people do with each other for fun. Notice the smiley face at the end. Obviously I don't expect them to change the schedule to accommodate "Thirsty Thursdays."

You come off as extremely condescending, so I'm just telling you that. If you choose to be a jerk, that's your decision.


I did read everything you responded to me about, go back and read it. Short of reading the entire thread, I'd have no reason to believe you weren't talking about late registration... That's why I was confused.

hug it out. = )

Alright cool

3 hours is far too long. I would love to see it changed back to 2. Players on the eastcoast have to stay up til 3 am or later if they go far in the 12.5k

hahaha...Piano key necktie

Long registrations are clearly great for some players but I don't think they are good for most players.

I keep hearing that getting more money into the tournament is a great thing for players. But truth be known, the value of tournaments, just like all other forms of poker, are rated by winnings per hour. So if more money is put into pool but the tournament takes longer to win, the benefits of a larger prize pool are partially mitigated by the extra length of the tournament.

A lot of players are pretty good at playing the early stages of a tournament but aren't so great at playing once the blinds increase when they can't do their set mining limps any longer. It's the average and less than average player who gets hurt by the long late registration. The players who benefit are the good players who are more likely to have a good size stack when the registration closes. It's that minority of players who get to collect most of the additional prize pool money.

In the long run though everyone loses. When the fishier players re-enter possibly 10 times, they are just burning through their bankroll at record speed. This is exactly the type of thing that causes fish to leave a site. I think that the site is taking advantage of the situation too by charging a fee for each re-entry rather than allowing them to rebuy during the late registration.

The extra hr of late registration doesn't add an hr length the the tourney.

The solution to that problem is an earlier start time for the 12.5k which has been implemented

actually it does make the tourney longer, It allows more people to join, which puts more chips in play which equals longer tournaments. Its just common sense. I was up until well after 3am Pacific Time when I shipped the 1k. It was around a 6hr tourney which is way longer than a 2hr late reg 1k.

So you'd rather have smaller player pools/smaller prize pools so that it doesn't take as long?

Read first couple of posts, and I hate to go against the grain, but I do not really mind the 3 hour late registration. Here is my thinking on the matter:

1.) Bigger prize pools, obviously.

2.) People buying in late and shoving with ATC to try and catch up. I can't understand why people playing tight don't like this aspect.

3.) Once late reg ends, you are almost in the money anyways.


These are just my feelings on the matter. I can totally understand people not wanting to invest that much time into a tournament, but for me, that really doesn't do jack **** but play internet poker, I have the time, and my ROI has definitely gone up since they implemented the longer late reg. period.

and where does Debaser live?

I never said that, all i said was the extra hour late reg makes the tournament much longer, but your welcome to put words in my mouth

Yeah, that's another thing. I live in Colorado, so I'm in the MDT time zone. I also don't have to get up for a job or anything.

I wouldn't mind anything either then. = )

OK. But you vote for 2hr late reg and complained that the tournament took too long with the added hour of late reg and if the late reg was only 2 hrs it would inevitably create smaller prize pools but sorry to put words in your mouth.

True, true.

Still, I think even if I had a job, I wouldn't mind the late reg. I like monies, and the three hour late reg has given me more.

The reason I vote for 2 hr late reg is because it makes the quality of the game better. I don't feel like playing bingo in the 3rd hour because that is what it becomes, a bingo game. Deep stack poker allows more skill and does not occur when people buy-in for 5-10bbs. If you end up getting it in preflop, which happens a lot in the 3rd hour, you let variance become more of a factor as opposed to skill. We can acknowledge that there are a lot of bingo players before late registration ends.

See what you are saying, but if some idiot wants to shove with J4os against my aces or kings, I'm gonna gladly put it all in. Yeah, he'll get lucky every now and again, and I'll pissed off. But in the long run,. it's extremely profitable.

Once late reg ends, it settles down again.

That's the ideal situation, However, you might just have something like aj and know your ahead but still lose 40% of the time. It would be a losing play to fold but you also have less control than if both stacks were super deep

45 minutes would work too and no re enters too on some mtts would be great