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08-14-2015 , 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BeerBottlez
Anything significant in all these updates lately? The client downloads new ones everyday I open it as of late.
You already know the answer
08-15-2015 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by woolly
Having an extremely frustrating issue playing cash games. All my tables will have sit out next hand randomly selected at differing times throughout my session. Does anyone know how or why this happens? Quite annoying and costing me money having to wait to be dealt back in. I stack tables using SaT if that helps at all.

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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
Does it also happen when you don't use Stack&Tile?
there was a conflicting hotkey in another program. was an issue on my end.

although if you have paid your BB and sit back in you should be able to sit back in immediately and not have the software automatically wait for you.
08-18-2015 , 10:25 PM
I think they should remove the table match score from the HUSNG rematch window. I am beating a rec player 11-2, and don't think it's a great idea to rub in his face exactly how many games he's down each time.
08-19-2015 , 02:03 AM
Not a great idea for who? It's not just you at the table.
08-19-2015 , 11:34 AM
I think the same thing with cash games is equally stupid. Showing me how much money I put on the table to let me know whether I'm up or down is annoying when I'm down as usually I just ignore the fact that I'm down money. Having a constant ****ing reminder that I'm down money makes me just wanna quit playing poker for the day and got do something more constructive. Dumb **** is standard on this site tho so.....



mucked cards anyone?
08-19-2015 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
Not a great idea for who? It's not just you at the table.
Well I certainly don't need to see the score (and I assume the same for most regulars), and I think it's clearly bad for rec players. I didn't really consider that there could be tons of railbirds orgasming at the display of the score of the HUSNG match they are observing, true.
08-19-2015 , 04:37 PM


Is it just me or did they update this bar? It seems to look brighter...... cool update. (yawn)
08-19-2015 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh


Is it just me or did they update this bar? It seems to look brighter...... cool update. (yawn)
I think that was in the works for a few years. Nice to see they checked that off the to-do list.
08-19-2015 , 07:20 PM
Ya that definitely caught my eye.









It would be awesome if we could get a run down on updates if that would be possible. Even just an email to a few of us regs on 2+2 so we can post it and let everyone else know what the updates are would be great. It effects a lot of people and info is always good when you're working with such a interactive software with a million variables that any one could be changed in an update.

Last edited by uradoodooface; 08-19-2015 at 07:26 PM.
08-19-2015 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Grungehead
Ahhh ok...it's in the "known glitchs" that will never be fixed pile...got it. IMO that makes it even worse that they know about it and haven't done anything about it.

That's pretty basic and important information to have that affects the strategy of the hand. I shouldn't have to assume the player is there when it says they aren't.

At Pokerstars if you call an inactive player (from any position) and they are sitting out they are instafolded, even in all in situations. This is closer to what would happen if playing live, except live I believe you have to be in your seat by the time the cards have been dealt or your hand is dead.

At ACR the inactive player's hand is not dead until raised, yet due to said glitch you can never be sure if the player is active or not. I have seen hands where multiple players limped preflop and then checked on every street and the inactive player won the pot. That's really messed up. Why is a player who is not in their seat in a hand to begin with? Shouldn't the rules of online poker be the same as live poker wherever possible? I shouldn't have to "tap dance" around an inactive player or have to guess if they are really sitting out or not. Like I said this player had been sitting out for several hands (this was an mtt) so I had no reason to believe they were not inactive.

And don't even get me started on the percentage of hands that inactive players win in all ins when they have no business having live cards. I've also seen inactive players shove with more than one BB (but less than 2). That is totally f'd up...how can they raise if they aren't there to put in the chips? I'm sure there are times where this has cost players on the bubble money when the inactive player doubles up when they should have folded out of the tournament.

Their disconnect policy even states that hands will be check/folded, so if they are raised when they have 1 BB or less doesn't their own policy state that the hand is to be folded. There is no difference between a disconnected player and a player sitting out...they are both inactive.

[/rant]

I'm sure I'm now so I will let it go.
Hey all, an update on a person sitting out and then becoming active when it's their turn. There is a way to tell if the person who's s/n says inactive has actually become active (btw after reviewing again the player in this mtt had actually been inactive for several orbits). I've seen this happen before but never really put the connection together. If this scenario happens you will notice a comma coming out of the bottom of the "a" of the word "inactive" under their s/n.

Seriously...I kid you not!

If you want to see the screen shot let me know and I will post it here or by PM (if that's possible). It's a fairly large screenshot in high resolution so I hesitate to post it in the forum as it's almost as big as the screen itself (I don't use an image hoster), and if resized down to a more manageable size it's more difficult to see. At the large size it's also easier to see that the comma is at the exact spot it would be at if the player's chip stack were there instead.

I know...big f'n deal right?. Well IMO it's a software issue that really should be fixed. When playing online we have to rely on the information on our screen being correct in order to make the best decisions possible since it's not happening in front of us.

Last edited by Grungehead; 08-19-2015 at 09:18 PM.
08-20-2015 , 02:41 AM
I signed up for Photobucket...here is the screenshot mentioned in the post above. Notice the other player that is inactive (top of screen) looks normal.

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...pskmhi60as.jpg

Last edited by Grungehead; 08-20-2015 at 03:03 AM.
08-20-2015 , 03:38 AM
i dont know if it has been suggested before but...

please make the numbers bigger when the tables go smaller - pot size, stack size are really small when tables go to miniview(esp pot size i cant see it if im 12 tabling)
08-20-2015 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by uradoodooface
I think the same thing with cash games is equally stupid. Showing me how much money I put on the table to let me know whether I'm up or down is annoying when I'm down as usually I just ignore the fact that I'm down money. Having a constant ****ing reminder that I'm down money makes me just wanna quit playing poker for the day and got do something more constructive. Dumb **** is standard on this site tho so.....



mucked cards anyone?
I mentioned this long time ago. They don't care. We will get an excuse about how it is some super technical thing that will take years to fix blah blah blah.
08-20-2015 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sharknegie
Well I certainly don't need to see the score (and I assume the same for most regulars), and I think it's clearly bad for rec players. I didn't really consider that there could be tons of railbirds orgasming at the display of the score of the HUSNG match they are observing, true.
If you are a reg player, you don't have to look at the score. I've never looked to see if I'm up or down in a session. And for cash games, unless a player is only playing one table, it's unlikely he can even see the money in play since that stat can't be seen in the window title when the tables are made smaller than standard size. A player only playing one table is likely to be a rec player.

I seriously doubt that the site is going to change its software to help the reg players better fleece the rec players. At least they shouldn't. The reg players have a big enough advantage on this site, which has already made the site excessively reg infested.
08-20-2015 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
And for cash games, unless a player is only playing one table, it's unlikely he can even see the money in play since that stat can't be seen in the window title when the tables are made smaller than standard size. A player only playing one table is likely to be a rec player.
I can see that stat all the way up to 6 tables so I disagree with the above. I also think a rec player would notice the amount he was in for and if it was significant it might upset him. I just don't understand why it is there to begin with.
08-21-2015 , 12:31 AM
You must have a very high resolution screen then. For me, opening 2 tables makes it disappear. The point that I'm trying to make, though, is that there are plently of software upgrades that need to be made. These suggestions lately that are meant only to give some players easy money shouldn't be on that list. Trying to keep rec players in the dark as to how much money they are losing in a session is inspired out of greed. Whether regs want to believe it or not, recs are also members of the network and shouldn't be conspired against to help wipe their bankrolls.

Things like mucked cards, hand for hand play, enlarged fonts, etc. are just a few of the important things that need improving. I don't think that WPN has been all that great about keeping, what should be, their priorities straight. Even something as simple as the red fonts that are still red (actually more of them are now red) over a year after we complained about them hasn't been fixed; even though the CEO said in a twitch stream that changing the color would be a very easy thing to do. The last thing that I'd like to see happen is to allow these recent suggestions to get any priority over the things that are really important.
08-21-2015 , 05:41 AM
Just a heads up for anyone on Blackchippoker. I had all my money stolen from my account this morning and dumped in the Casino via bounty hunter slots. Support will do nothing and told me this session was logged from my ip address when I asked for proof of that the support 'Mary Lou' ignored me and I continued to ask she continued to ignore. Not sure what is going on or how this happened.
08-21-2015 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
You must have a very high resolution screen then. For me, opening 2 tables makes it disappear. The point that I'm trying to make, though, is that there are plently of software upgrades that need to be made. These suggestions lately that are meant only to give some players easy money shouldn't be on that list. Trying to keep rec players in the dark as to how much money they are losing in a session is inspired out of greed. Whether regs want to believe it or not, recs are also members of the network and shouldn't be conspired against to help wipe their bankrolls.
I really just want it gone so I don't have to see it and it has nothing to do with the recreational players. I would imagine that it might upset them just as it would any player to see that they are in for 4 buy ins.

I found a way where I don't have to see it though. I have a table stat for VPIP/PFR and just place it at the top over the amount in play.

I do agree about there being more important things to fix like cards at showdown.


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Originally Posted by Olek
Just a heads up for anyone on Blackchippoker. I had all my money stolen from my account this morning and dumped in the Casino via bounty hunter slots. Support will do nothing and told me this session was logged from my ip address when I asked for proof of that the support 'Mary Lou' ignored me and I continued to ask she continued to ignore. Not sure what is going on or how this happened.
If true this probably needs it's own thread.
08-22-2015 , 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Olek
Just a heads up for anyone on Blackchippoker. I had all my money stolen from my account this morning and dumped in the Casino via bounty hunter slots. Support will do nothing and told me this session was logged from my ip address when I asked for proof of that the support 'Mary Lou' ignored me and I continued to ask she continued to ignore. Not sure what is going on or how this happened.
legit post
08-23-2015 , 03:51 PM
how do i turn off it opening a webpage when i close the client?
08-23-2015 , 04:05 PM
u can't afaik, so annoying that they hit you with the popup on launch then webpage on close
08-24-2015 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pwnsall
how do i turn off it opening a webpage when i close the client?
Don't open the client?
08-24-2015 , 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
u can't afaik, so annoying that they hit you with the popup on launch then webpage on close
It's the webpage on launch that really bothers me.

The last thing that a site should ever do is throw a roadblock in front of players who want to log on to their site. If I have a table open from another site, I can't log on to WPN because that webpage launch locks up my computer for 5 or 10 seconds so I'm essentially briefly disconnected from the table I'm already playing on.

Even when I'm not playing on another table, how easily I can launch the client effects which site I decide to play on. I play on Carbon and Bovada more than WPN, in part, simply because launching their clients doesn't leave me exasperated.

Last edited by SantaCruz; 08-24-2015 at 12:54 AM.
08-24-2015 , 10:13 AM
WPN Rep please answer, Why do you guys feel it's ok to force a pop-up on us when we close the client?

How about not opening a new window when I click on the tourney tab?
08-24-2015 , 10:48 AM
that is also very annoying

      
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