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08-11-2015 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
@BCP Broken link report: www.blackchippoker.eu/promotions/sit-&-crush/faq/

Linked from in-client Sit&Crush leaderboard popup --> What is Sit & Crush?


Working page: www.blackchippoker.eu/promotions/sit-and-crush/faq/
This link is broken again. Also, when you roll over the link a tool tip displays "What is The Beast?".
08-11-2015 , 10:22 AM
Lest you forget...

08-11-2015 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by eric79
Anyone get pt4 working yet?
I don't know if you were having the same issues as me but I got it to work. I had to uninstall and delete all the user app data then reinstalled and it works fine. Obviously don't forget to backup your database and any custom settings, huds, etc.
08-11-2015 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by the_duece
Lest you forget...
I'm thinking more like this.

08-11-2015 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
This link is broken again. Also, when you roll over the link a tool tip displays "What is The Beast?".
Thanks. Should be fixed today.
08-11-2015 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by the_duece
Lest you forget...

Ya seriously, and it needs to NOT CHANGE every hand in cash games cuz it makes it look like the person who is sitting out just sat back in. It gets old.



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Originally Posted by WPN Rep
I'm thinking more like this.

LOL didn't see this, looks nice!
08-11-2015 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WPN Rep
I'm thinking more like this.

Speaking of inactive players...I have a question, but I will set up the scenario first.

I'm in the SB and the inactive player is in the BB. It folds all the way around to me. Obviously I min raise to take the free blind, but miraculously the BB comes to life and re-raises. This has happened to me before so I watch very carefully to make sure that they are still inactive when I make the bet. The player's status was clearly inactive when I bet.

My question is, shouldn't their hand be dead at that point? How can a player be inactive when the bet was placed and then change to active? BTW I have video/screenshots of this I can provide/post if there is any doubt whether the player was inactive when I made my bet (yes OBS is running in the background at all times since about a week ago...why is a discussion for another time).
08-11-2015 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by WPN Rep
I'm thinking more like this.

I'm not picky.
08-11-2015 , 10:32 PM
Does the client let us know when we win a bounty in a KO tournament?

If not, where can we go to find that information?
08-12-2015 , 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Grungehead
Speaking of inactive players...I have a question, but I will set up the scenario first.

I'm in the SB and the inactive player is in the BB. It folds all the way around to me. Obviously I min raise to take the free blind, but miraculously the BB comes to life and re-raises. This has happened to me before so I watch very carefully to make sure that they are still inactive when I make the bet. The player's status was clearly inactive when I bet.

My question is, shouldn't their hand be dead at that point? How can a player be inactive when the bet was placed and then change to active? BTW I have video/screenshots of this I can provide/post if there is any doubt whether the player was inactive when I made my bet (yes OBS is running in the background at all times since about a week ago...why is a discussion for another time).
Crickets? Anyone know whether or not this should be able to happen, ACR rep or otherwise? My experience with other sites is that an inactive player's hand is instantly folded to any bet when it's their turn (not talking about all in's).

Last edited by Grungehead; 08-12-2015 at 12:21 AM.
08-12-2015 , 12:40 AM
If I sit out and don't miss a blind I shouldn't have to pay for one.
08-12-2015 , 03:46 AM
its the same in 888..sigh...guy is inactive his hand should just go to the muck.

And the mucked cards at showdown,,,,are they promoting collusion???
08-12-2015 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Pagasses...
its the same in 888..sigh...guy is inactive his hand should just go to the muck.

And the mucked cards at showdown,,,,are they promoting collusion???
If they don't want to show mucked showdowns.. that's one thing. But they should at least release them X amount of days later to let the players check for suspicious play.
08-12-2015 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by numberonedonk
If I sit out and don't miss a blind I shouldn't have to pay for one.
You don't. I've had this happen to me as recently as last night. It only posts a blind if you miss one.
08-13-2015 , 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Grungehead
Speaking of inactive players...I have a question, but I will set up the scenario first.

I'm in the SB and the inactive player is in the BB. It folds all the way around to me. Obviously I min raise to take the free blind, but miraculously the BB comes to life and re-raises. This has happened to me before so I watch very carefully to make sure that they are still inactive when I make the bet. The player's status was clearly inactive when I bet.

My question is, shouldn't their hand be dead at that point? How can a player be inactive when the bet was placed and then change to active? BTW I have video/screenshots of this I can provide/post if there is any doubt whether the player was inactive when I made my bet (yes OBS is running in the background at all times since about a week ago...why is a discussion for another time).
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Originally Posted by Grungehead
Crickets? Anyone know whether or not this should be able to happen, ACR rep or otherwise? My experience with other sites is that an inactive player's hand is instantly folded to any bet when it's their turn (not talking about all in's).
I guess there is no answer coming to this question. I will just start using this method of angle shooting myself.
08-13-2015 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Grungehead
I guess there is no answer coming to this question. I will just start using this method of angle shooting myself.
I see this happen all the time. My guess is that the software can't recognize when a player has come back after being inactive until the action gets to them. So if they start the hand as inactive, no matter when they rejoin, they will show as inactive until it's their turn.

So yeah, be a little more cautious than you would be on other sites when you see an inactive player. If someone tank/folded the river on the previous hand and is showing as inactive, they probably aren't. If a player has been sitting our for several hands, feel free to steal.

Last edited by SeeTheMirage; 08-13-2015 at 05:11 PM.
08-13-2015 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SeeTheMirage
I see this happen all the time. My guess is that the software can't recognize when a player has come back after being inactive until the action gets to them. So if they start the hand as inactive, no matter when they rejoin, they will show as inactive until it's their turn.

So yeah, be a little more cautious than you would be on other sites when you see an inactive player. If someone tank/folded the river on the previous hand and is showing as inactive, they probably aren't. If a player has been sitting our for several hands, feel free to steal.
Could be...in that case I have put this in the right thread...that software glitch would need to be fixed. In this case the player had been sitting out for several hands. It only cost me one BB but it's more the principal of the thing.

Like I said it's angle shooting plain and simple. I have screen shots where it shows the raise bar come up under my name with the player reading inactive, my bet (300) on the table with the player reading inactive, then that player becoming active and re-raising.

If it hadn't happened multiple times in the past I probably wouldn't have thought much of it. IMO the sit out rule is already very liberal online compared to live (and even more so on ACR compared to other sites), but to be able to go from sitting out to active AFTER the player in front of you has acted is wrong.
08-13-2015 , 07:01 PM
I'm usually playing too many tables to notice the inactive player since it appears where players name should be.
But when I do I just call and bet vs an insta- check from the BB preflop.
There is def a known glitch that causes the player to stay marked as inactive (unknowingly) and randomly,even after he returns though. Fwiw.
08-14-2015 , 04:39 AM
Having an extremely frustrating issue playing cash games. All my tables will have sit out next hand randomly selected at differing times throughout my session. Does anyone know how or why this happens? Quite annoying and costing me money having to wait to be dealt back in. I stack tables using SaT if that helps at all.

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08-14-2015 , 05:00 AM
Does it also happen when you don't use Stack&Tile?
08-14-2015 , 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ibolxijuf
I'm usually playing too many tables to notice the inactive player since it appears where players name should be.
But when I do I just call and bet vs an insta- check from the BB preflop.
There is def a known glitch that causes the player to stay marked as inactive (unknowingly) and randomly,even after he returns though. Fwiw.
Ahhh ok...it's in the "known glitchs" that will never be fixed pile...got it. IMO that makes it even worse that they know about it and haven't done anything about it.

That's pretty basic and important information to have that affects the strategy of the hand. I shouldn't have to assume the player is there when it says they aren't.

At Pokerstars if you call an inactive player (from any position) and they are sitting out they are instafolded, even in all in situations. This is closer to what would happen if playing live, except live I believe you have to be in your seat by the time the cards have been dealt or your hand is dead.

At ACR the inactive player's hand is not dead until raised, yet due to said glitch you can never be sure if the player is active or not. I have seen hands where multiple players limped preflop and then checked on every street and the inactive player won the pot. That's really messed up. Why is a player who is not in their seat in a hand to begin with? Shouldn't the rules of online poker be the same as live poker wherever possible? I shouldn't have to "tap dance" around an inactive player or have to guess if they are really sitting out or not. Like I said this player had been sitting out for several hands (this was an mtt) so I had no reason to believe they were not inactive.

And don't even get me started on the percentage of hands that inactive players win in all ins when they have no business having live cards. I've also seen inactive players shove with more than one BB (but less than 2). That is totally f'd up...how can they raise if they aren't there to put in the chips? I'm sure there are times where this has cost players on the bubble money when the inactive player doubles up when they should have folded out of the tournament.

Their disconnect policy even states that hands will be check/folded, so if they are raised when they have 1 BB or less doesn't their own policy state that the hand is to be folded. There is no difference between a disconnected player and a player sitting out...they are both inactive.

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I'm sure I'm now so I will let it go.

Last edited by Grungehead; 08-14-2015 at 07:49 AM. Reason: speeling
08-14-2015 , 01:56 PM
If folks here are having trouble beating inactive players, it's time to give up poker.
08-14-2015 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Grungehead
Speaking of inactive players...I have a question, but I will set up the scenario first.

I'm in the SB and the inactive player is in the BB. It folds all the way around to me. Obviously I min raise to take the free blind, but miraculously the BB comes to life and re-raises. This has happened to me before so I watch very carefully to make sure that they are still inactive when I make the bet. The player's status was clearly inactive when I bet.

My question is, shouldn't their hand be dead at that point? How can a player be inactive when the bet was placed and then change to active? BTW I have video/screenshots of this I can provide/post if there is any doubt whether the player was inactive when I made my bet (yes OBS is running in the background at all times since about a week ago...why is a discussion for another time).
happens all the time when i try to theif those free blinds , no clue how

also, to the pt4 users; i had a similar experience, often my hud would not refresh or work on certain tables but HM2 seems to work quite well. i have not attempted to use pt4 on WPN in quite a few months

Last thing that needs fixed asap is when a player is allin in the BB for less than the BB itself and u still have to call him LULZ
08-14-2015 , 02:52 PM
Yeah, you can get angled hard when you try to resteal knowing someone is stealing from the guy sitting out and then he comes back to life and 4bets you.
08-14-2015 , 03:55 PM
Anything significant in all these updates lately? The client downloads new ones everyday I open it as of late.

      
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