Active micro NL bots. Unlike the PLO ones these accounts will play together at the same tables
Posting for awareness in the hopes that this network starts to do something about it.



Stats:
Name/Hands/WTSD%/WWSF/FoldRiver/Donkbet/BetVMissedCbet
VPIP/PFR/3bet/FoldVs3bet/4BetRange/FoldBBtoSteal
Raise first in stats/FoldBBtoSBSteal/AggFactor
Cbet/CbetFold/SkipCbetCheckFold/TurnCbet/FoldVsCbet/RaiseCbet





Aggression & Checkraise:







3bet by positions, Cbet etc:

Standart ukrainian bot, how and in chico. And?

Was wondering the same. I play every day against those accounts at the 10nl.

Did you email that to ACR?

yep




Few more:



these ones have slightly different preflop and aggression stats. A little bit tighter in EP and looser in LP + higher flop and turn aggression.

Kind of ironic that half of the front page of the WPN sub forum is about bots yet WPN continually fails to do anything about it them.

There should be someone from security on here providing transparency and answering questions.

Don't forget WPN Reps trolling/derailing bot threads.

Didn't know that bots are so common

They rather pretend it isn't a massive issue.

Yup. Look at the difference in how Party handled this recent cheating (collusion not bots) thread. If you don't want to read whole thread just read 3 posts by the Party-Rep posts # 17, 30 and 46. That type of professionalism is NOT found on WPN. Also key in on post #30 the Party-Rep acknowledges the importance of players in catching cheats.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...poker-1693383/

And for comparison look at a WPN cheating thread. I'll also list 3 posts by the WPN-Rep TD. Post # 48 he admits to being a troll. Post # 55 he says bot are easy to beat "free money". Post # 58 he admit that even having to read a bot thread tilts him.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...30/?highlight=

Then ultimately a WPN mod closes a bot thread instead of actually modding if the thread ever gets off topic.

11 more. pretty sick how bot infested it is

So basically every player with a 4 character screen name is actually a bot.

Not sure if serious, but that program just lists the first 4 characters of a players screen name.

Oh, okay, thanks.

As far as the house bots go, I did hear rumors of this from pretty reputable people a few years back about them seeding games this way. Now I'm not saying that is true or not, Idk, but I wouldn't at all be shocked.

There is a reason a lot of professionals and serious recs play MTTs on WPN and cash on Bovada, and it isn't because they want to. Between the bots and the beast, WPN cash is awful to play. Not to say there isn't good tables here and there, but in general until you get to about 2/4+ the games are miserable. Funny the high stakes games aren't infested with Eastern Euro's, I wonder why that is...

To your cashout comment, it's irrelevant and not accurate. WPN is the easiest site I've ever played to cash out, including 2010-2011 Stars and Tilt(I know before then it was pretty easy). What's stingy about requiring you to rake 10% or whatever it is of your deposit? It's standard across the board. Not only does it stop money laundering it helps recoup the fees they pay to take your money in the first place, it isn't free, even with bitcoin.

I took a 1 year break from poker and GrIInwIn is still playing the micros. Playing against him right now.

Why is he not banned? Have you alerted ACR?

Edit: I see many of these players in games right now.

Bump. This should not have to be bumped. If there are proven bots why are they still playing???

did not see them for a few day, did you get the reply?

Do these guys end up at the top of The Beast promotion every week?

I think it's funny that the bots stats look very much like my own. Maybe I'm secretly a bot too? Muahhaha

Holy crap!! This is amazing. I just googled "GrIInwIn poker", because they had like 50$ at a 10nl table and I thought man, I wonder if this guy posts on 2+2.... THEN FOUND THIS THREAD. LOL.

And guess what, I have a couple thousand hands against more than half these players, and I'm beating almost all of them.... Now that I know they're bots, I can probably do better.

Can we get a list of their full SNs in the OP?

what stakes do these guys play?

What's your read on DuraShura? From Ukraine but my sample at WPN is low.

I haven't been playing NL but i have seen some of the names playing when i have checked

Definitely not the top. Not sure if they are frequently cashing the beast overall.
these are just from 10nl
Thats actually one account that i nearly included but i wasn't completely sure because i didn't have enough hands either.