Just to inform everyone that the start time has now changed to 5pm!!

Isn't this worse? Ends at like 6am the next day?

The truth be told i personally cant guess at what affect this will have, could be genius, could be bad!

I do know that if your still playing at 4am you have a good shot at a big win!

Wouldn't running it along side with the Sunday Millions be a good idea?

It's not going to end until like 8-9 AM EST. You made two gr8 changes in the last 2 days and now you do something ******ed again.

If anything it needs to be moved to earlier in the day so more Euros could play.


5 PM EST= 12 AM Russia
10 PM UK
11 PM Germany


If you make it only during American peak hours it's never going to hit 1 million.

Agreed. Probably should have it start at 2 so it's 11am pst and 2pm est along with 4-5 in Europe.

5 is just too hard for others if hitting a GTD is something you want to accomplish.

exactly my point

wpn is ran by monkeys, but we've known this for years. standard operating procedure as usual

Winning TD how about you fix the really bad structure.. get your **** together. Man this site really is a joke

After reviewing the timezones of other countries.. I would say 4pm EST would be a better compromise than 5pm EST.. I'm sure the time was pushed back for a reason from 3pm EST.

Cant please everybody, Good change imo

I would have preferred NOON EST personally.

So this impacts the currently scheduled events too?

I assume it's based on traffic, which in theory makes sense, but in practice there is only so many on the site who are going to play a $500 tournament. This needs foreign players to be a success.

I'm sure this is an attempt to combat overlay, but the lag has much more to do with overlay than the time. There was nothing wrong with where it was at before.

THIS

Well I expressed my thoughts to TD before this thread. I know they have to try something to cover the gtd, but this seems to defy logic to me for reasons already pointed out here.

First I had thought part of the idea behind these was to attract ROW players because it seems like the easiest way to approach the gtd, but moving the start time 2 hours later makes it even less likely ROW players will bother with it. FFS the event has 5 hour late reg, that won't even be over til 10:25ET now and the money bubble not til after midnight. I played last Sunday and cashed but was still done at a reasonable hour (sadly lol). I probably won't play the remaining millions in light of this time change though as I don't want to be up to 3am for a min cash, I have a life.

Second they say the move is to cater to the bulk of their player base which is US, but I think it won't impact that much at all and may even hurt attendance as in my case because any money run is now guaranteed to take you into the early morning hours. If you make final table money I'm sure you deal, but even that will now take you past sunrise.

Also I found the marketing piece they put about this change to be ridiculous.

We decided to push the Million Dollar Sundays back a couple of hours. After all, the majority of our client base is from the US and Sundays are meant for sleeping in a bit and enjoying some football. Now you can do both as the remaining Million Dollar Sundays tournaments in October (11th, 18th, and 25th) will get rolling at 5pm ET as opposed to the previous start times of 3pm ET.

1. 3pm ET start was prohibiting "sleeping in a bit"? Ridiculous.
2. Anyone interested in watching football is already watching while they grind anyway. Duh.
3. There's a reason why your ROW client base doesn't grow. This change and that comment is a bit like giving the middle finger to the ROW markets you'd like to attract.

More and more I see decisions being made that frankly, are just mind boggling to me. I get that 200K overlays are not what they had in mind and trying a change to juice it up makes sense... but the change here seems to defy logic to me and the marketing genius can't even spin it without sounding foolish as a result imo. That's not really a slag on him/her, if I were in charge of their marketing I don't know how I'd spin it that would sound any better. Probably just announce the change without any silly spin like we want to let you American's sleep past 3 in the afternoon while simultaneously showing ROW players if they want to join us they're not allowed to sleep. A change to an earlier start, rather than later, would make more sense to me.

I hope this works. The best thing that could happen for the network and the players is this thing covering the guarantee by the end of the series. While I feel like making this start later is illogical and they are setting themselves up to fail, I will be happy if proven wrong and it's a success... even if it means I play less often as a result.

The last one started at 3pm and ended at 8am, running 17 hours.

So now it's more like ending 10AM est if it runs 17 hours.

And if WPN gets their wish and actually stops having overlay because more people play it, the duration will only get longer.

I happen to be in the next event. Problem is, I also have a day job. I had to actually tell my bosses, "I may not be in next Monday" because of this tournament.

I simply can't do that often.

If WPN wants to attract more people to this event, IMO a much smarter move would be make it a MULTI-DAY EVENT.

I mean, seriously - would anyone ever expect a live tournament to run 17 hours in one day? How is doing it online somehow sensible?

It was starting at noon on the west coast on a day that the majority of 9-5ers have off. How much later do you need to sleep in? Americans are going to play regardless, it's the only million dollar tournament there is for us. The ROW players start grinding 8 hours before this starts....... you think they are going to reg this at the end of their session knowing it may have problems at any time?

Keep it at the same time or start it at 1 PM with the Sunday Million.

It didn't end at 8 AM it ended at 4:45 AM or so. The one before that ended at like 5:30-6 AM EST. It running all day isn't the problem, that's how tournaments work.

According to the lobby the last one ran 17 hours. 3pm + 17 hours is 8am. Are you saying the lobby clock is wrong? (I'd believe it...)

I'm not on to look at it, just thought I saw 4:45 AM EST when I did look. Very possible I'm wrong.

Pretty sure PLO is right, their lobby is goofy. When the tournament is over it shows the finish time then iirc the hours from that, meaning Greebo you were looking at it 17 hours after it finished.

Edit: The tourney lobby now says finished and how long it's been finished. If you look in the main lobby at the date at time, that shows the actual finish time of the event (4:40)

Ah that explains it.

I'm starting to think WPN doesn't put much thought into these type of decisions...

I'm not sure why they don't send out surveys via email and ask their client base what they prefer instead of just assuming what we want.

Have to ask - what's an "ROW" player?