We'll see.

30 minutes till start, 540 registrants, just $270k in the pool.

Doesn't that seem low?

Most of the people in their own mind don't register until at most 3 minutes before the tourney start - the disconnection probability is nonzero at any poker site and it's better not to risk the buy-in until the game actually starts.

Besides, the :00 starting time is inconvenient for multitablers because the sync break usually starts at :56-:58 for them in fact and they need the full 4-5 minutes to recharge, so expect a ton of 2-5-minute late registrations.

Well, looks like a lot of people have a lot of crow to eat. While it still did overlay (I'm assuming it will) it was larger than last time.

you had wcoop last weekend, this weekend you had no competition and still overlay ~200k.

7 days more of marketing, mouth to mouth advertising, etc etc..

whats your point homie ?

lol why didn't you guys make these tournaments in Decemnber or November when nothing is goign on... why make so close with Pokerstars Wcoop? lol

As I figured, you will keep looking for excuses to say things didn't work. They got under $150k overlay (not including fees) and yet you say "it didn't work." Do you think that more than 120 people played WCOOP instead of the WPN event last week? That seems a bit far-fetched.

They also sattied in significantly more this time with 2x100 seat and a 150 seat gtds instead of 2x50 and a 100 seater. It's nice to see them get 120 more than last week but I'm not sure the time change can be attributed to helping... that's 150 extra seats right there. Those satellites overlaid hard btw.

Maybe next week they can make a $109 buy in 500 seat gtd satty, then they'll hit the number for sure

Iam not looking for excuses, i want this to succeed more than anyone and i also don't want to prove a point or show that i am the real deal.
Dude think for a second. Last weak it was the wcoop ME. People were focused in stars stars stars stars. Mily overlayed ~200k. This week without wcoop, without competition it overlayed ~150k. If the conclusion for you is something like this: hmm, we overlayed less this week, changing the starting time was the nuts....well, then i cant help any more...

change back the time pls. 2 hours for extra 100 players is ******ed

I think whatis most important (and we won't know this) is what kind of players played this week that didn't. If it was non-grinders, then they are likely happy about that. How many WCOOP ME players do yu think they would actually want? My guess is not many, because they are not the profitable players for the site.

Right! And it's strange that some WPN players want extra regs in their MTTs

I think i can answer in my name but also gluten free, i playplohigh and others...

Is not what we want as players, at least in the short term. Obv as players we would love 500k overlay, no Euro regs.... but is that good not the network? Is that sustainable?

Why would the network want more EU regs at the risk of having less US recs? IF the numbers pointed towards more US recs than before, then it was a success.

You guys are sounding a bit silly, come on now.

No one is saying we want a future of the milly that is a tougher field. What we want is a future of the milly. The parent company of WPN may be financially sound but they probably didn't get that way by handing out 6 figure overlay's on a weekly basis. In order for the milly to become a permanent fixture they need more players. In order to get more players they need to attract players outside the US.

Why would having more EU players impact US rec attendance? This makes no sense to me. First of all we're talking about a $540 buy in so I doubt there are many rec direct buys. But a time that is more EU friendly may attract some EU recs too, no? And as far as recs go, wherever they are from, they have little clue or care about field strength anyway, they want big prize pools and big numbers, for as cheap as they can get. If the milly becomes sustainable and a regular fixture on WPN, it could grow to be a $320, and eventually a $215, which is ideal and will attract even more recs. But they have a long way to go to reach that point and it starts with not hemorrhaging such big overlays now that the parent company says no more.

As far as yours/mine/everyone's desire to have more rec players if possible... 99% of rec players that would play a $540 without satelliting in from micro levels or freerolls have a day job. A tournaments run time, start and finish, impacts their decision to play. An earlier time is likely to attract MORE recs than a late time because they can get a run going and still go to work on Monday.

US recs might like it later in the day, because they have family obligations during the day on Sunday, but can get free around 5 or something.

Maybe this applies to some! Probably a negligible amount who both can play later but not earlier and don't have any Monday job concerns.

Strange how the large majority of live casino events in the US on weekends, which attract a lot of recs, start at noon. Maybe they should try them from 5pm to ~7am instead of noon to ~2am.

I dont think recs buy in too that only small amount... with that late and blind and cash spotd its all about regs and bank roll and rentries... the same so called flaw in fan dual ect

Say what?

Well, you can all stop complaining and talking about the time change. They've changed it again.....to NEVER. They've taken the remaining October ones off the schedule completely and added a few $270 buyins with $500K guarantee. Not a good business decision imo, but maybe the overlays have broken them so they had no choice.

Get ready for the 'you asked for it you got it email'

booo not as good as 1m gtd

They should have never existed imo. Good decision WPN.

I don't get the hype about guarantee amounts in general - they don't go to any single player but are shared... what usually makes me dream is the first place prize, and $200K didn't sound nearly twice as good as $100K (still 6 figures). And I can spend $270 less a week now on the shots and also can finally grind the jackpot sats

Regarding the popularity in the EU... how big is WPN's presence in European media? Most of the Euro players are winners, and that affects everyone else's ROIs significantly, to an extent that can't be compensated by attractiveness of the guarantee.

Say wat?