Had a couple drinks last night and misspoke a bit above..

I don’t see them hit the guarantees in OSS without fixing the late/reg obvious colluders issue because a lot of legitimate players won’t play.

I also don’t see them hitting guarantees if they DO address the colluders & late reg issue since unethical accounts make up such a substantial portion of player pool

A late reg seating loophole bandaid to get them through OSS seems most likely to be in WPN’s financial interest (their obv top priority, not game integrity) but if the colluders & people like CreateMyOwnEnergy are still playing (especially in small fields like BOSS events where he’s gonna have 3 accounts) it will still deter legit players who aren’t scheming the system

I play $11 average Buyins on ACR. Just my 2 cents. I noticed the other night in a PLO tourney that the late registration ended like an hour earlier than it said it would. and they paid out a massive overlay and we were in in money in no time. Never seen that happen before. As well as the other night I reentered a $5 tourney, and was in the money before I even received my first hand. I think they need to completely redo the structure back to a more classic style like the old ole days.
-FBR530

Obviously it needs to be fixed, but also, any and all accounts who have engaged in abusing it should be permabanned, period. The fact that they haven't yet is truly disturbing.

i don't understand why people are trying to do these clowns jobs for them? just get off the cesspool, empower yourself. nothing will change until their paychecks are reduced. You're daydreaming if you think they're working on security issues.

By having discussions about it we are empowering the players. As customers of the network we hold all of the cards but only if we are united. Using the forums we can work with WPN (ideally) to come up with solutions. And if WPN chooses to not listen to us we can make them listen by standing strong and not play on their network. But we must act as a team otherwise nothing will happen.

Just do whatever rooms without this problem is doing.

I will say, it is absolutely pathetic that the reps avoid these threads at all costs. They REFUSE to address this MTT late reg issue, because it is indefensible. But way worse is the fact Nagy hasn't directly addressed it. Pathetic beyond belief.

I see where you are coming from. But you thinking that they are actually taking these things into consideration is laughable.

These issues have been brought up time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time and time again.

Give up. Nothing will change.Phil Nagy and his team of monkeys will continue to rape you and wipe their a$$e$ with YOUR money. The time to take a stand has already passed. GET OFF THE CESSPOOL!

It is possible that the GM or CEO told them not to answer

True. Likely, in fact.

Maybe they look around here and see people raving and swearing and comparing other site operators to Hitler and slavery, and they figure that there's no point. Yeah, they're dead wrong, but that doesn't mean they should jump at the chance to argue with morons. Maybe we should let the adults from the community reach out and engage with them.

Just a thought.

Just a question. If WPN were to just dial back their late reg way back and the lessened the GTD prizepool, would you all still play?

I see a case both ways. It’s been years that players traditionally complained about the long late reg. I also like to play a good structured tournament that ACR does have and love the fact that there is a 5.50 10k GTD game that if you bink it’s close to 2k prize. That won’t happen dialing back late reg.

I am on the fence with this now as I don’t see that changing up the tourneys will get rid of bots. Just google bots for online poker and it’s not hard to set up for anyone. It’s pretty much as easy as setting up a HUD. I think that ACR would do best to just investigate when there is suspect of a bot whether it’s been suspected by player or if there is suspect by at least moderating the traffic throughout the day. Obviously there is no “Security team”. I’d say get one. If you have a security team, bring them out of the woodwork.

And I thought Phil Nagy was going to be on Twitch. Did I miss it? I really would like to hear his view. Seems like he is just letting this blow over. I really don’t want that to happen.

Im in the camp of late reg haters, 1hr max late reg for many reasons. I also enjoy the good structures on ACR, probably the best of any online. The late reg and other "issues" and suspicions of mine have kept me away since I returned a stake for WPN that I was in profit on 3 yrs ago. Even for the milly gtd, ~14 hrs is a super long time for me personally.

RE: twitch stream, it's discussed a bit on the last page of the "empowering players" thread. cliffs - nobody knows, rep just edited/deleted his op about it, people asked and crickets so we started speculating a bit.

I’ll keep my conspiracy myself. No proof which is why I keep to myself but no Phil Nagy explanation I will always have my theory. Ain’t got time to make proof. Moved off ACR. Nice playing guys.

I'll give you one opinion, which doesn't count for much.

No. As a rec hobbyist, I'm there to hit a home run. I love the 1000x-4000x fields and payouts. If a lot of casuals like me feel the same, then that's who you want in the field, minus the late-reg expoiters.

do you re enter and if so how many times or up to what point? Or do you just fire one bullet?

The flip side to this how many recs are driven away from playing mtts because of the amount of time it takes to play them. I can only speak for myself but I don't have time to sit at my computer 8-10 hours straight to play a tournament so I never do on WPN.

I'll re-enter if (1) I'm not tilted and (2) It's early enough where I get at least a 50bb stack. Both of those conditions combine to where I reenter less than 20% of tourneys.

I basically play no tourneys just cuz late reg is so long. I'm not gonna play 8+ hour tourneys unless it's a big sunday type of tourney. If I'm looking to just play 1 or 2 while grinding cash I want 4-5 hours max. As is I just play freerolls and satties for fun cuz grinding tourneys on this site is pure aids. I have a life....


That's what's kinda funny tho, tournies are so much fun I'll just mess around in freerolls, nothing better then actually final tabling a shove fest! Gives me a good venue to spazz while "trying" to play perfect poker in cash games. ARRRRRRRRRRR INNNNNNNN!!!!!


If they made tourneys shorter I'd play way more of them. Just make late reg 2 hours instead 5 hours or whatever they do here.