Obvious bot still grinding.



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It's disconcerting. But I've lost so much money running horrid on ACR that I am determined to have my vengeance. It's a vicious trap they have me in. If I were up any amount, I'd be so effing gone.

LOL I'm up about $25 on this site and I'm ready to just go to a table and degen my entire roll away just to stop playing (it's not much at all). Trying to withdrawal seems like a bigger pain in the ass then just spewing away my BR so I don't wast anymore time on this site.

Sell your credits in the 2+2 marketplace.

People will give you even money in paypal.

I'm not sure WPN could've of handled this worse.

Spiraling out of control.

You're doing God's work, Joey.

hahaha i love this.

side note im up 100 on acr (down overall) but this last go was only because they gave me 2 $10 tickets and 20 dollars cash.

If you take all funds off site and pretty much quit eventually they give you free **** to come back. (but im also down like 1900~ with 4k~ in cashes so I guess giving me $40 is not huge.)

So since I am for first time ever free rolling acr I will continue to play here and there but its getting harder and harder to want to and that is with FREE MONEY lol.

Been a fun player since 2015 obvious botting and BS going on then and its obviously worse.

I hope more and more players chyme in on this. I know its why I am even being active on these forums instead of just reading. This has been well over do.

LOVE YOU PAPI!

Bring down WPN. Let them burn.

Someone fly me to Costa Rica for the live cage event, but let’s change it from poker to MMA.. Throw Nagy in there with me. Let’s make it happen. !!

easy killer

LOL this is the type of stuff I expect from the Roganboard, not here lol.

Hahaha thought it would be fun/funny

WPN, just make all Eastern European grinders (30-40+ hours a week) play on webcam. It would clean up the situation really fast.

I'd happily play on webcam if it helped clean up the PLO games.

They can’t get mucked cards You think they can add a webcam?

I am a rec player on the network and am very interested in this. I also listened to the PokerFraudAlert show with ChicagoJoey AND saw both videos from ChicagoJoey and i will commend him for bringing to light on this issue of bots and collusion and potential superusing. The evidence of the MTT bug is clear on Friday's video as he does provide proof in the tournament bug.

This is a suggestion. WPN needs to immediate address this. Just seeing this thread putting it back on us as players to send hand histories to them is what bothers me. We pay rake on your site and it's not our responsibility to police the traffic especially if we don't have any tools to prove this. It shouldn't even be ChicagoJoey bringing it up to WPN and submit a podcast to expose this. It's the network's responsibility. We really don't have the tools to suspect botters effectively without putting up a good hand history of a strong sample size. Most rec players (like me) don't have this sort of sample size.

Here are my easy suggestions that wouldn't be a software overhaul.

Dialing back late registration would take care of the tank of five at the same time. This doesn't take care of the collusion obviously of 5 guys regging at the same time. My suggestion, 12-15 minutes 2 1/2 hours max and 10 minute 1 hour MAX. This will prevent the tanking among colluders. It wouldn't be worth them late reg.

Another way is to not have unlimited re entries, make it 2-3 entries MAX which wouldn't be an overhaul of software I don't think.

Finally, just show the mucked cards. I don't see anything at all a good reason why it's fearful to muck the showdown of the losing hand. At best, hiding the muck of the losing cards would be suspect of hiding something from the site making things less transparent. If you provide the hands, then in time, we can provide the suspected botting and submit hands a bit easier if we can prove the existance.

Now this isn't THE answer, I think that at least make one step in the direction as at least being able to make hedgeway to provide a room that can make a positive step trimming down late reg, minimizing re-entries, and mucked cards to be shown.

With that said, I believe the priority is to get WPN 2.0 up and going with assurances that their is a solid RNG that is proven to all us players (that isn't simply a pdf of a paper with a signed documents that obviously looks like a photoshopped signature to us), that there is a bot detection software and that we are seeing mucked losing cards.

Now with years of suspected stuff going on with WPN, I am pretty sure that the entire 2p2 community would answer, this would never ever happen, i am waisting the keys I typed this, etc.

I also know that chances of anything to be done immediately by WPN would be equivalent of me winning K2o vs AA on a AA2 board. SO hopefully, WPN would like to collude with me and give me the 2 on the turn and 2 on the river.

I was just about to deposit a decent amount to grind mtts for the next few weeks on there, but now i am not. **** you wpn, fix these problems.

Ya at this point sngs and tourneys are the last thing I'd play on this site. At least cash games you can be like "**** this table" and leave. No one should be depositing at this point tho.

this...the company is incompetent and/or corrupt from the top down.

there is no proactive security, it is all reactive. and the only time they react is when big names like Joey bring it up. But their reactions are just banning accounts, their "security" infrastructure never gets updated. Creating a new account is easy as pie on WPN, so really the number of cheaters doesn't decrease. So pretty much, the community is WPN's security team. WE PAY THEM TO DO THEIR JOB FOR THEM. They would let us wipe their a$$ with our money if they could, or are we already?

Get off the cesspool. This company will crumble once things become regulated.

For funsies, here's another article that displays how infected the site is, EVEN ON THE FREEROLLLS. There's no avoiding it on this site. If you are data driven, or have more than 7 brain cells, you can look at this data and see the incompetence of WPN's "security" team.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...g-acr-1610998/

Do you guys think there's bots in HU cash? 25NL ?

Has been for years, I used to play this German bot account at 100NL everyday for hours a time.

see, read that thread because it really is to the CORE of all this

a player lays out a clear cut path to botting going on in even freerolls

the wpnrep comes in says ok we shall look into this...cool we getting somewhere....hard brake pumps though

he leaves us cliffhanging on results....ok still whatever

but wait thread stays open and someone is concerned with whatever happened....ok here is the issue

the pure just dbaggery that drips from the WPNrep has the time to respond with what a condescending egomaniac would instead of informing the population of what happened
then locks down the thread

if you have followed this from start waaaay back in 2014-15 you would know how many times the reps find time to passive aggressive troll peeps instead of finding solutions to problems with the concerned population

but hey population what colors should the lobbies be in and blah blah blah

disgusting really

That link you quoted isn't working for me. Anyone else? Was curious to see what it was about.

It works in the original post.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...g-acr-1610998/

gotcha thanks

lol the new ones up.


https://youtu.be/YUKdz58M44U

Is it just me or are The Beast and Sit n Crush promo leaderboard totals pretty high for a Monday?