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05-30-2015 , 02:07 AM

#101

WPN Rep

Deactivated Rep Account

Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 758

Quote:

Originally Posted by H0RUS

previous results in sit and crush still show the old payout structure

Yeah, I just put in a notice for the programmers for that. I'll make sure the payouts are correct with the new tier structure.

05-30-2015 , 11:46 AM

#102

glutenfree

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,766

Quote:

Originally Posted by WPN Rep

Yeah, I just put in a notice for the programmers for that. I'll make sure the payouts are correct with the new tier structure.

They were showing correct with the new tier structure in the client view all week. That view is from the link that pops up in IE, I don't think they updated it.

05-30-2015 , 02:27 PM

#103

Windpspro

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 357

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdfj

I wouldn't be surprised if jackpots had a higher sustainable roi than any other type of single table sng at least at the highest levels right now.

I don't understand how that is possible, hypers are low ROI and then you add 3 man and a Jackpot which you aren't even getting max buy-in most of the time. Do you mean the volume?

05-30-2015 , 02:38 PM

#104

RunYa$Up

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 341

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windpspro

I don't understand how that is possible, hypers are low ROI and then you add 3 man and a Jackpot which you aren't even getting max buy-in most of the time. Do you mean the volume?

He said the highest level which isnt worth talking about at all (aka where everyone has the game solved and your roi is about how little you can misclick). Obviously spins are extremely low roi and super high variance when you have to deal with a combination of chip ev and spin ev in a hyper turbo format.

05-30-2015 , 04:06 PM

#105

Windpspro

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 357

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunYa$Up

OK, assuming he meant that, how is it still "The highest sustainable ROI"? If everyone has the top level figured out, how is anyone making any money other than VIP? From a logical point of view I find that confusing. I mean some pros who play hypers only have 1-2% ROI, and that's considered good. I dunno what the ROI is on here.

05-30-2015 , 04:17 PM

#106

cdfj

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 227

Most high stakes hyper regs probably don't make money pre rakeback and you can almost certainly beat jackpots/spins pre rakeback right now.

05-30-2015 , 06:00 PM

#107

Windpspro

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 357

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdfj

Most high stakes hyper regs probably don't make money pre rakeback and you can almost certainly beat jackpots/spins pre rakeback right now.

Ok I see what you mean, I was thinking of any SNG's. I don't play high stakes. I play the lower ones, I can't break even and I know i'm better than 90%. Whether it's just the swings or I just run bad I dunno. I evaluate my game, and while i do make mistakes i'm close to making the right decisions. I can't afford to keep playing them, more power to you if you can stay above water.

Last edited by Windpspro; 05-30-2015 at 06:24 PM.

05-30-2015 , 11:15 PM

#108

p2 dog, p2

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 7,536

Way above water, walking on it like jesus

05-31-2015 , 01:43 PM

#109

samm1ch

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 192

Now that JPs are introduced into the Sit & Crush can we get round the clock $5 On demands Registering now. Also possibly add some $10s. Only source of any kind of multi table sng action one can get on this site and I'd imagine the traffic for these would skyrocket. I can't see any downsides.

05-31-2015 , 04:54 PM

#110

Windpspro

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 357

Quote:

Originally Posted by samm1ch

They have $1, $3, $5, $10, but i don't seeing why adding more would be that hard even PLO,PLO8...any game types really....6 max would be nice for me. They seem to take awhile to fill up though with JP's....course so does everything else now.

05-31-2015 , 05:09 PM

#111

BeerBottlez

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,909

They had a $7 on demand PLO8 last year and it was fun and also did draw a decent turn out so I'm not even sure why they got rid of it in the first place.

05-31-2015 , 05:25 PM

#112

samm1ch

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 192

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windpspro

There's a delay on them respawning and the $10s don't count torwards the leaderboard. some tweeks and there could actually be some half decent mtt sng action

06-01-2015 , 06:29 PM

#113

Windpspro

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Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 357

Quote:

Originally Posted by samm1ch

There's a delay on them respawning and the $10s don't count torwards the leaderboard. some tweeks and there could actually be some half decent mtt sng action

Yeah, that sucks. I didn't notice the delay.

The problem is I don't see many people playing them since the JP's, kinda hard to complain when not many people want to buy into them when they put them back up. 57 combined buy-ins for the $1 and $5, I know it isn't peak time. On the other hand, multi-table SNG's are nice to play with 18-45 buy-ins, it just takes so long to fill up.

06-01-2015 , 07:45 PM

#114

plappaslappa

grinder

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 440

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdfj

Most high stakes hyper regs probably don't make money pre rakeback and you can almost certainly beat jackpots/spins pre rakeback right now.

100 percent WRONG

06-01-2015 , 08:44 PM

#115

Boney526

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Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,314

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerBottlez

They had a $7 on demand PLO8 last year and it was fun and also did draw a decent turn out so I'm not even sure why they got rid of it in the first place.

It'd be fun if they added a 20 dollar or more OD PLO8, say starting with 6 players.

06-01-2015 , 08:59 PM

#116

cdfj

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 227

Quote:

Originally Posted by plappaslappa

100 percent WRONG

I mean just look @ the top hyper players who aren't blocked on stars for past 2 years

I remember 6 years ago when jorj posted in his well that his goal was to breakeven in hypers and just make $ post rakeback. I find it hard to believe the games have somehow gotten softer in 6 years + post black friday.

06-01-2015 , 11:18 PM

#117

BeerBottlez

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,909

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boney526

It'd be fun if they added a 20 dollar or more OD PLO8, say starting with 6 players.

I'd play it all the time and if that was the only stake going you can bet some others who would prefer to play lower would still jump in.

06-02-2015 , 12:54 AM

#118

Windpspro

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Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 357

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdfj

I mean just look @ the top hyper players who aren't blocked on stars for past 2 years

Yeah, I knew that even before I saw the graph. I watch jorj every once in awhile, I've watched some rough sessions. Many would argue he's the best hyper player. Without the VIP he said he would make very little money but that graph doesn't seem to show that. I forgot how SS calculates VIP buy-ins though. I don't know if they treat like a freeroll which would impact the scale.

06-02-2015 , 03:28 AM

#119

clutch352

adept

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 929

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windpspro

I think a big thing with sit and go traffic is that when you offer too much it slows the speed down of fast or often they run. With the current way its set up it might actually be better if they just made 2 dollar ones instead of having both 1s and 3s.

06-02-2015 , 05:57 AM

#120

Windpspro

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Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 357

Quote:

Originally Posted by clutch352

$2 PLO/8 works for me, if I'm going to play I play that one. Assuming it isn't a 4 hour SNG.

06-02-2015 , 03:35 PM

#121

samm1ch

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 192

Quote:

Originally Posted by samm1ch

There's a delay on them respawning and the $10s don't count torwards the leaderboard. some tweeks and there could actually be some half decent mtt sng action

seems like since my last post theyve taken out the respawn delay and added the $10s as well as $20s and $50s into the mix. 5 points per $1 rake in the is amazing. Looks like the plo hi/lows are in there as well. great to see this.

Now send out emails and blast everyone about this, get the action rolling.

06-02-2015 , 09:22 PM

#122

Windpspro

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Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 357

That's nice, Some loving below $7 would be nice too.

06-02-2015 , 09:32 PM

#123

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by samm1ch

Things might get interesting if they reduce the respawn time. Not like you can kill something already dead, but gg other SNGs if they do that.

06-03-2015 , 01:57 AM

#124

Boney526

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Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,314

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeerBottlez

I'd play it all the time and if that was the only stake going you can bet some others who would prefer to play lower would still jump in.

That's actually why I said 20 (or more.) Because I'd prefer more but I know more people would play and I think it'd actually go off.

Funny that after we posted the 7 dollar one came back. I'm not likely to play that low often, but it goes to show that they are reading these threads!