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Old 04-14-2015, 08:42 PM   #151
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Well, players...

Complications with Jackpot Poker, and we need to take them down for the night. We hope to have them back tomorrow.

As we do, we'll refund players for incomplete Jackpot Poker games.
Hopefully you can get these things actually working. I think this might be the first promo/new thing WPN has ever done that looks like it will attract new regular players rather than just more grinders
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Old 04-14-2015, 08:56 PM   #152
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Although I lost 5 in a row to some crazy outs, I rather enjoyed them. Was looking forward to playing some more tonight. I hope you do get these back online again soon.
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Old 04-14-2015, 08:58 PM   #153
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I'm amused by the fact that WPN skins' accounts are still spamming Jackpot Poker posts even while it's offline. Good idea. Get people there to see..........nothing. Thumbs up.
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:05 PM   #154
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:09 PM   #155
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LOL at Beta.

You can't just put out Crackpot Poker and take it away from the people so quickly when they are wanting more.
You said they can't, but they certainly did anyway.

This reminds me of seeing a movie preview one too many times for a movie that isn't out yet and getting so sick of hearing about it that I don't think I want to see it anymore
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:36 PM   #156
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Still no refunds. How long does it take to issue them? I don't want to be negative but I am having my doubts that I am going to be adequately refunded for the disconnects.
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:56 PM   #157
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Still no refunds. How long does it take to issue them? I don't want to be negative but I am having my doubts that I am going to be adequately refunded for the disconnects.
Much of the team was done for the day by this time. We should have them done tomorrow. Sorry for the delay.
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:58 PM   #158
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I did finally get my winnings

Rep will this result in down time again?
We are unsure at this point.
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:09 PM   #159
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So I got a 8 dollar still suspended and I havent been credited yet? Should I be expecting a chop being HU or refund?

I saw the over 3x/under 3x, but being a 2 buy in, is it 2 x 3 = 6 JP or over chops or is is the 12 JP and over is chopped?
When we say 3x, we mean the prize pool is 3 times the buyin.

Your $8 JP game is a 4x game.
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:17 PM   #160
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Much of the team was done for the day by this time. We should have them done tomorrow. Sorry for the delay.
As long as I know I am getting refunded that is fine. Thanks for the reply.

BTW, today I played about 50 of the $2 jackpot SnGs and got one $16, five $12, two $40, and about a dozen $8. Pretty sick run.
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:25 PM   #161
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Are these done for the night rep?
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:38 PM   #162
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Are these done for the night rep?
Yes. Hopefully we'll get it ironed out tomorrow.
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:55 AM   #163
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Actual rake on these things is going to be huge.

you only have ~1/6666 chance to get a 100x+ payout, and since most people will never play enough games to have the odds even out to get to those top 3payout levels, most people will end up paying more like 8-10%+ rake effectively. Even to get to the 20x or higher payout level it's like 1/862.

so most people will only ever play enough games to get to the 8x or lower payout level, and even the 8x level is really hard to get to - it is still like 1/162 chance to get to the 8x or higher level

So most people will only be getting back $5.43 average in prize pool for their $2 buyin ($6 pre rake prize pool) if they never make it past the 6x payout, or $27.15 avg prize pool for $10 buyins, making their rake around 9.5% pre-rb for most players who aren't grinding thousands of these things-and even if they are things might not even out very well
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Old 04-15-2015, 03:55 AM   #164
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Re: Jackpot Poker!

If we exclude 100+ BI JPs (a grinder will win 20 BI ones every 2500-3000 games on average, i.e. every month or at least every other month), the rake becomes 7.5%:



Those with 36% ITM will break even with rewards and 100+ BI JPs excluded. But elite benefits will cover their life expenses, especially because, unlike Stars, WPN skins have frequent reload bonuses.

Oh, and good luck to WPN with today's debug

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Old 04-15-2015, 07:43 AM   #165
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If we exclude 100+ BI JPs (a grinder will win 20 BI ones every 2500-3000 games on average, i.e. every month or at least every other month), the rake becomes 7.5%:



Those with 36% ITM will break even with rewards and 100+ BI JPs excluded. But elite benefits will cover their life expenses, especially because, unlike Stars, WPN skins have frequent reload bonuses.

Oh, and good luck to WPN with today's debug
If somebody plans grinding these almost exclusively, would it make more sense to have elite benefits rather than rakeback? Appreciate any insight.
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Old 04-15-2015, 07:44 AM   #166
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Jackpots have been running for a couple hours in the lobby now.
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Old 04-15-2015, 08:17 AM   #167
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Working great but still not adding any points into SNC.
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Old 04-15-2015, 08:20 AM   #168
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Still haven't gotten any refunds
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Old 04-15-2015, 08:25 AM   #169
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Working great but still not adding any points into SNC.
I know. Hoping we get that fixed today. The points from them are in the database for you, just not added to leaderboard yet.
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Old 04-15-2015, 08:26 AM   #170
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Still haven't gotten any refunds
The work day is just beginning here. Should have them done inside the next 12 hours.
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Old 04-15-2015, 10:03 AM   #171
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Re: Jackpot Poker!

got lucky playing $2, got a $200 jackpot. we all chose the deal at 80/60/60 the other choice was 150/?/?

i was the last to choose "accept"...would it still have given me the option if say the 2nd guy chose "decline"?? if so, i wish it would tell you what the other people choose. if it did, then i must have missed it due to the table being minimum size.
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Old 04-15-2015, 10:16 AM   #172
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got lucky playing $2, got a $200 jackpot. we all chose the deal at 80/60/60 the other choice was 150/?/?

i was the last to choose "accept"...would it still have given me the option if say the 2nd guy chose "decline"?? if so, i wish it would tell you what the other people choose. if it did, then i must have missed it due to the table being minimum size.
Congratulations!

It would not have given you an option if any of the players before your decision chose to decline. When a player presses decline, the deal screen disappears and informs all players there is no deal. Then, there is a 10 second countdown to begin the game.

There is a display on the deal screen just above the buttons:

Player Decisions x/3

We do not display which player made which decision.
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Old 04-15-2015, 10:47 AM   #173
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great, thanks!
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Old 04-15-2015, 01:17 PM   #174
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Sit & Crush points are being awarded in the database, however, the leaderboard isn't showing them right now. We should have that fixed tomorrow and your points will show on the leaderboard.
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/21...-week-1525679/
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Old 04-15-2015, 02:54 PM   #175
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If somebody plans grinding these almost exclusively, would it make more sense to have elite benefits rather than rakeback? Appreciate any insight.
I'm not yet sure if enough $10 games will be running, but if the traffic is big enough to enable continuous 2-tabling, then you'll be able to get the 2300-3500 games a month needed to become a Colonel in May and a General by the end of the year (or however the Platinumstar and Supernova equivalents are called at your skin) and be better off on Elite Benefits than on rakeback even if you remain a Colonel.

If you grind $2 games and are able to play 4546 games a month (3-4-tabling), you'll be able to sustain Major (=Goldstar), and again, you'll get 19.6% from exchange to tourney bucks plus 7%-ish from Medals of Achievement (=Stellar Rewards), i.e. about the same as if you were on RB. As you'd like to move up to the $10s soon (a $2K+ roll is needed ideally), and you can switch the programs only once, I advise to remain on EB. Even if you don't play that much right now, the gain you'll get from hitting General next year offsets the small loss you'll suffer if you remain a Captain (=Silverstar) or Major throughout this year.

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