Cause/effect is tricky business.

We launched Jackpot Poker at the beginning of low season.

Our cash game traffic is up significantly from this time last year.

When the Jackpot Sit n Gos are apart of the SitnCrush leader board there will be a huge up spike in games and the cash game traffic will take the hit.

I don't think they included WPN in their research. They were just talking about Jackpot games in general, doing their research with ROW games that have already been in existence for a while. I think that it's pretty clear, though, that these games don't bring in players to non-Jackpot games. If anything just the opposite.

I think that WPN was on the right road to grow the network but these games may very well derail that effort. ROW networks can advertise the games in order to bring in new players but US sites, I think, can largely only draw in players from their existing games and from other existing (mostly US) networks. So I think that the negative effects to existing games on WPN will probably be more extreme than that of the other networks.

I think that another question that is going to come into play is, what effect are these games going to have on the million dollar tournies?

lot of assumptions regarding WPN here, but I tend to agree with them. I think the next 6-12 months are really going to be interesting on WPN if they maintain the current course.

I dont know which thread to put this in so I'm putting it in all 3.

Maybe it's a jackpot poker specific problem, but my internet went out for about 30 seconds. THAT part is on my end. When the connection was reestablished, the client didn't automatically reconnect, so I had to reboot. I can still say maybe that's 'my fault'.

However, when I logged back in I was unable to reconnect on the jackpot tables I was on. Only 1 of the 4 tables popped up, and there was no option to 'take my seat(s)', and the buyins were gone from the ones that were 'waiting'.

Is anybody going to take responsibility for this?

Seems like you almost are.

I posted this in the early days of JPs, before PT4 released an update. Now PT4 also tracks actual monetary winnings in JPs correctly, please upgrade PT4 to the latest version (if you have v. 4.13.2, you don't need to) and reimport old tourneys (dhh and phh files) for this to take effect.

keep calm and shill on



p.s. or learn to read better... dealer's choice i guess

Is this right? I thought PT4 simplified monetary winnings by assuming all payouts are average (something like 2.2bi or whatever). Are payouts tracked precisely or just estimated?

I stand corrected - they're estimated, i.e. a win of 1.82 BIs net is recorded every time when Hero wins. (That's as of late April - I haven't played on the WPN this month.) Thanks for the remark!

The real winnings can be tracked through the poker client:

Thanks to competitors not paying quickly I'm sure.

Continue to pay out reliably and quickly and you'll be golden IMO

You have to enter the real amount you won for every one you win. The value that PT4 puts there is always wrong. You don't have to do anything to those you lose--it gets the buy-in correctly. Someday, maybe ACR will provide the winning amount in a hand history or summary. I would think that would be virtually trivial to do in the hand histories on the first line.

I spent a little time last night trying to figure out how PT4 arrived at the conclusion all winnings should be 1.82bi. I'm missing something. My thinking is the min. payout is 2bi, so the average winning should be above 2.

I think they assumed all wins are minimum 2x, and subtracked 0.6 per player for rake. If this is the case, $ won will be grossly underestimated since something like 2 out of 10 are 4x.

Just terminology here. It's assigning a net win of 1.82, or a total payout of 2.82 for every game.

Is that 1.82bi gross or net winnings (profit)? If that's gross winnings, then yeah it sounds like it will be underestimating whenever you win a 4x+. If it's profit (2.82bi winnings - 1bi entry = 1.82bi profit), that means it's averaging at 2.82bi winnings.

[edit] Oops, missed glutenfree's post. doh!

ahhhh that makes sense. thanks.

Im not getting any APs for them. Why?? This means they are useless for first deposit bonus?

It updates at the end of the day and not in real time.

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Interesting bug I just experienced. I picked $2.00 Hold Em Jackpot and was put into a $2 PLO game. I don't care, but I 100% picked Holdem. Holdem was still highlighted when the game started a few seconds later.

I posted in the pt4 support thread and I'll post here too. Has anyone had any troubles running pt4 while playing jackpots. I have never had a crash while playing mtts. I've never crashed playing jackpots in 30+ sessions without a hud, but the 2 times I tried running a hud, one time 3 weeks ago and yesterday, my client froze.

I run the HUD with it, no problems here.

I was just wondering if you have mucked hands turned off in pt4? I just turned that off I could see that causing issues I suppose. Also there always seems to be idk 5-6 regs a night who get dced from all their games and I kind of always interpreted that as their client crashing from using a hud.

No, I have mucked cards ticked to display for 5 seconds (probably the default, don't recall ever changing it).

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