In my opinion, which I have more experience at the $10, there isn't much. Between $2-$25 is what I vouch for. I honestly do not see a huge difference in skill.

What kind of ROI should I expect in these? the 10 and 25 specifically?

~350

How often is the "recent winners" updated? Everyday I see the same regs hitting the top tier spins. According to sharkscope i've played almost as many SNG's as them and have only hit a 4x 3 times

it cant be +ev without rake back. ive played like a few 100 and very rarely seen any jackpot above the min. not to mention ive never ran so bad in my life. losing 90/10 fav. all ins pre 100 percent of the time everytime.
/venting

ummmm. def takes volume to start expecting to hit the bigger tiers. if u only hit a 4x three times there is no chance u have put in any significant volume. I can't say off the top of my head the chance of hitting a 4x and I'm not going to look but it should pry be somewhere close to 5%(pry larger than 5%). so in 60 games u should have expected to hit three. how many JPs have u played lifetime?

and yeah, these would be worthwhile to nobody without incentives. the buyins are not large enough and the rake is to high. unless, of course, u live in one of those third world countries where 3 bucks a day can buy u three cheeseburgers, 6 avocados, and a blowjob from the tranny on the corner

These games are super tilting. I managed to hit a 20x on the $10 and win it. Been playing these forever. Probably played around 1000 or so. I think I had around 10-15 2x spins in a row a few times. Idk how people just strictly play these. I always mix up what games i play to reduce the variance cuz these are so high.

It depends on volume and skill level. Many people should expect a negative ROI (ha). Those with basic skill maybe 5-10% if they multi-table. If you are single tabling I can't say what long term ROI you can run but I ran at 11.2% multi-tabling and I found my ROI increased by single-tabling (I just won't say how much and I haven't put in enough volume to give a real quantity yet). The variance as in all poker is high. You have an advantage if you understand ICM, M calcs or whathaveyou, table dynamics, and are patient.

There are many on this thread who belittle jackpot poker but the reality is that there are many 4 tabling it or more running 10% ROI all day long..... It's just a damn slough and so no one really loves doing it!

cEV = $EV when winner take all, yes? So no ICM considerations in these jackpot poker games, I would think.

I misspoke on that one to a degree. Since it's winner take all you can't just blast off with A4o pushing all in bc you will lose the opportunity to be heads up too often. And at the same time after a certain time period it is bad play to be too tight even to the point of multi-way all in considerations bc you won't ever have a stack to fight with. So bc it's winner take all there actually are ICM considerations in a sense and that sense is that there's definitely no money for third and when there are two left there's only no money for second. I think you can see the implications on how play can change drastically over the course bc of this principle. I am blabbering but I think I have a point though I don't necessarily think I'm right to couch it in ICM, but I could still be...

nope

You have no idea what you're talking about...also lol at 5-10% roi.

Hi. Its just me that thinks that there is something wrong about Kingspinz? He put mass volume. Like, he start grinding around 3pm and just finishes around 1am European time, with no brakes between sessions? Also tried to chat with him many times and got no reply back. Let me know what you guys think.

You're saying he goes from 3pm to 1am European time? Sounds like a long but not terribly irregular grind session to me. Presumably he's multitabling, meaning his focus is not on chat. He may not even have his chat open. Not to mention with the ACR chat interface, it's hard to even see when you've got chat because it goes out of the box quickly and then you miss it. Not to mention even if he did see it, if he's a grinding pro, he mightn't even care or bother to respond? You're implying he's a bot or something, but your evidence is especially flimsy.

He never accepts deals either. He just binked 2500x and won with no deal.

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Is fitting to his "spin" and go jackpot style.

Site just has many things that seem shady. Between the scripts and bots and Russians... Who knows.

kingspinz averaged like a $7 buyin 4 - 5 months ago and his Sharkscope graph was terrible(to the point where when he was playing I was loading as many as i could). All of a sudden hes playing nothing but $40s and $25s and seemingly doing ok. well, he just reset his SS graph this month so his data is now very limited. That's about all i can chime in in regards to him.

current graph: 1,353 -$1.3 $23.5 -5.3% -$1,761 60

is it possible to observe more than 1 table at a time?

Only if they are a different game or stake, as far as I know.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/21...d-jpp-1605313/

Anyone else not having the lobby work correctly for them? i go to the jackpot page and dont see any games to register for

Is there any plan on adding or changing the different tiers? Would be nice to have a $5-$7 option.

$2 & $5 & $15 & $40 would be a less ragged lineup of buy-ins, with the same 4 tiers as now.

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