How are players getting, 20K-50K in Beasts Points?

Bots?

I play 4-5 tables , 4-5 hours a day

With only a few days left, I am in 280sih rank, with about 3K in points

How in the hell are these other players getting so high in points?

Any tips on getting in the top 20?

Play a lot more tables for a lot more hours.

The guys in the top tier play every table available between 25nl and 200nl, full ring, 6 max, cap, and short. They probably play 10-12 hours/day or more.

you play basically minimum to call urself a regular

16 table 50NL and 100NL 8 hours a day 26 days a month will get you about 40,000 points. Good for top 10

lol i play more than that and i play tournaments.

LOL at the fact that you think anyone playing over 5 tables for 5 hours is a bot hahaha.

and you didn't even say what limit you play or if you play 6 max 9amx etc.

not sure how anyone can 16 table for 10 hours a day whenever I get over 6 tables my quality of play drops dramatically and if I was to get top 10 I'm sure I'd be dropping the beast payout in buy ins.

There are some good methods to playing over 24 tables. Its kind of an artform. A few people can even earn 800+ points an hour once they get going.

what methods are those and i'm not sure you can even 24 table on bcp

With some additional software and special mice or controllers things can get easier. The real challenge is getting all the stuff to work together

Something you can try is to use the F1-F3 keys to fold or bet then spin the mouse wheel for bet sizing. If the tables pop up in turn you should be able to play with out moving your mouse around.

If I got back to grinding the Beast I'm gonna try to play 35-45 tables. Sorry I can't give you more details but I don't really wanna just talk about my set up as it took me months to perfect and I don't wanna just give that edge away.

xbox controller, xmodder, pt4 / hem 2, tableninja or whatever program you need for the site your playing, not exactly rocket science.

Look at leaderboard today.
They play 0.1-0.25 and 0.25-0.5
they may well lose money and be a huge plus because of the monthly, daily and weekly races, and the game is dull poking the buttons on 20 + tables, like a robot.

Omg look at this Dult collected 12k beast points in a day, he is playing 24/7
Why should I pay money to Beast from each pot, when I know that half of it would take By Dult= bot / group of people / Chinese nerd sitting on stimulants

Fold, lots of folding. Love seeing these idiots try to play omaha beast tables.

the problem is that we are paying these idiots

yup...

I agree. That's why I only start non beast tables. Unfortunately not enough Omaha action to avoid beast tables altogether.

I was one of the few non-BBJ table starters at 2/4

I barely play there anymore (because of the Beast), but non BBJ tables almost never run at 1/2 or 2/4 anymore.

The Beast rake doubles at 2/4 which is absurd, I was paying thousands extra in BBJ every month just just so WPN could juice the top end of the Beast. Even when I put in 60k hands a month at 100nl-400nl I would get only a few hundred back.

The system kills winrates for normal grinders, makes fish bust faster and only rewards a handful or mass tabling robots each month.

It might even make the microstakes completely unbeatable (never play enough there to know tho)

So much this. I really wish we could get a WPN representative to come discuss the Beast intelligently with everyone. Because, I honestly can't really see any positives to the promotion for the overwhelming majority of players, or for the poker economy of the site as a whole.

imo the tilt that the beast causes me every tiem i think about it is even worse than the extra money in rake it takes from me

Im not a WPN rep in any way but I can play one on TV. Albeit an honest one.


WPN : Let me answer your question icanhazstax. We are currently raking the **** out of you and everyone else, and our greed will not allow us to see the forest for the trees enough to understand this business model will make less in the long term.

Thank you for your concerns. I must leave now to rub all of this rake grab money all over my body.

Beast/BBJ rake does not have a 'administration fee' withheld by the network like many others do. *I think* this is the case for WPN. Feel free to correct me if Im wrong.

BUT WPN used to fund the rakerace themselves before it was called The Beast. Now its entirely funded by the BBJ rake. So they've saved a significant amount of money every month (old rakerace was 50k I believe).

I think this is why they promote the beast so hard, bc they pocket 50k every month it runs.

edit: not 100% sure on these, its just what it looks like on the outside, but I could easily be wrong about it

Every time the BBJ hits, the house takes 10%. That's definitely an 'administration fee'.

As for the Beast, all of the money paid out is contributed by other players from the BBJ/Beast drop. So they don't have to spend money on the rake race, as the rewards are coming from the pockets of other players. And on top of that, the Beast is an incentive to put in more volume, thus generating the network more normal rake.

The Beast is clearly just a way to line their pockets as much as possible. There is no way it is in the best interest of the game. And only a small minority of players probably even like the promotion (the top finishers).

I'm pretty sure the 10% fee applies to both the BBJ and The Beast and is taken at time of contribution, not when it is hit. Source:

http://www.blackchippoker.eu/thebeast/

(Go to the terms and conditions tab, can't seem to direct link to it.)