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Does anyone else think NL50-NL100 on ACR is really tough to beat? Does anyone else think NL50-NL100 on ACR is really tough to beat?

02-15-2018 , 01:12 AM
Just wanted to hear if anyone out there is actually consistently beating these RB grinder infested games?
02-15-2018 , 11:53 AM
I got waxed at 25NL. I went through 9 buy ins in a day in a half. I played a total of 17 hrs. I felt like I lost every showdown. At first I thought I was just running bad. Then I realized I was out matched. Hard to believe at such a low stake I couldn't win. Playing 27% of hands. I'd get 4bet shoved on a lot. I was calling or shoving w/ premium hands and getting beat. I went through all my hands and couldn't believe how many times I was ahead preflop and lost. I was 4-6 tabling. In those 2 days I played just under 5K hands. Small sample size I know, but it was enough for me to switch to SNG's. I've got my money back + with the rewards, combat points and deposit bonus I'm ahead.
02-15-2018 , 12:49 PM
This happened yesterday at 10NL

Game started at: 2018/2/14 17:2:37
Game ID: 1124210808 0.05/0.10 (PRR) Dilong - 2 (Hold'em)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: SecretSquirrel (10).
Seat 2: Einstein727 (17.08).
Seat 3: 3bet4U (6.36).
Seat 4: bob998 (24.78).
Seat 5: PokerrrRock (10.61).
Seat 6: chuvstvavkredit (4).
Seat 7: RecessionPrf (10).
Seat 8: packers888 (20.13).
Seat 9: JSpencer (8.37).
Player JSpencer has small blind (0.05)
Player SecretSquirrel has big blind (0.10)
Player JSpencer received card: [Ac]
Player JSpencer received card: [As]
Player SecretSquirrel received a card.
Player SecretSquirrel received a card.
Player Einstein727 received a card.
Player Einstein727 received a card.
Player 3bet4U received a card.
Player 3bet4U received a card.
Player bob998 received a card.
Player bob998 received a card.
Player PokerrrRock received a card.
Player PokerrrRock received a card.
Player chuvstvavkredit received a card.
Player chuvstvavkredit received a card.
Player RecessionPrf received a card.
Player RecessionPrf received a card.
Player packers888 received a card.
Player packers888 received a card.
Player Einstein727 raises (0.28)
Player 3bet4U folds
Player bob998 folds
Player PokerrrRock folds
Player chuvstvavkredit folds
Player RecessionPrf raises (0.99)
Player packers888 calls (0.99)
Player JSpencer allin (8.32)
Player SecretSquirrel folds
Player Einstein727 folds
Player RecessionPrf folds
Player packers888 calls (7.38)
*** FLOP ***: [Js Qc Kd]
*** TURN ***: [Js Qc Kd] [Ad]
*** RIVER ***: [Js Qc Kd Ad] [5s]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 17.21. Rake 0.66. JP fee 0.24
Board: [Js Qc Kd Ad 5s]
Player SecretSquirrel does not show cards.Bets: 0.10. Collects: 0. Loses: 0.10.
Player Einstein727 does not show cards.Bets: 0.28. Collects: 0. Loses: 0.28.
Player 3bet4U does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player bob998 does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player PokerrrRock does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player chuvstvavkredit does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player RecessionPrf does not show cards.Bets: 0.99. Collects: 0. Loses: 0.99.
*Player packers888 shows: Straight to A [10h 8h]. Bets: 8.37. Collects: 17.21. Wins: 8.84.
Player JSpencer shows: Three Of Kind of As [Ac As]. Bets: 8.37. Collects: 0. Loses: 8.37
02-15-2018 , 09:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jspencer21
I got waxed at 25NL. I went through 9 buy ins in a day in a half. I played a total of 17 hrs. I felt like I lost every showdown. At first I thought I was just running bad. Then I realized I was out matched. Hard to believe at such a low stake I couldn't win. Playing 27% of hands. I'd get 4bet shoved on a lot. I was calling or shoving w/ premium hands and getting beat. I went through all my hands and couldn't believe how many times I was ahead preflop and lost. I was 4-6 tabling. In those 2 days I played just under 5K hands. Small sample size I know, but it was enough for me to switch to SNG's. I've got my money back + with the rewards, combat points and deposit bonus I'm ahead.
25NL is filled with bots and people who are only grinding 25NL to game the beast, you're not playing with the average 25NL field on WPN it's quite a bit harder. There is literally players that sit 25NL-1K NL just to grind the beast if there isn't enough tables higher. It's a shame, but WPN is ran by idiots so the beast isn't going anywhere.
02-15-2018 , 09:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jspencer21
This happened yesterday at 10NL

Game started at: 2018/2/14 17:2:37
Game ID: 1124210808 0.05/0.10 (PRR) Dilong - 2 (Hold'em)
Seat 8 is the button
Seat 1: SecretSquirrel (10).
Seat 2: Einstein727 (17.08).
Seat 3: 3bet4U (6.36).
Seat 4: bob998 (24.78).
Seat 5: PokerrrRock (10.61).
Seat 6: chuvstvavkredit (4).
Seat 7: RecessionPrf (10).
Seat 8: packers888 (20.13).
Seat 9: JSpencer (8.37).
Player JSpencer has small blind (0.05)
Player SecretSquirrel has big blind (0.10)
Player JSpencer received card: [Ac]
Player JSpencer received card: [As]
Player SecretSquirrel received a card.
Player SecretSquirrel received a card.
Player Einstein727 received a card.
Player Einstein727 received a card.
Player 3bet4U received a card.
Player 3bet4U received a card.
Player bob998 received a card.
Player bob998 received a card.
Player PokerrrRock received a card.
Player PokerrrRock received a card.
Player chuvstvavkredit received a card.
Player chuvstvavkredit received a card.
Player RecessionPrf received a card.
Player RecessionPrf received a card.
Player packers888 received a card.
Player packers888 received a card.
Player Einstein727 raises (0.28)
Player 3bet4U folds
Player bob998 folds
Player PokerrrRock folds
Player chuvstvavkredit folds
Player RecessionPrf raises (0.99)
Player packers888 calls (0.99)
Player JSpencer allin (8.32)
Player SecretSquirrel folds
Player Einstein727 folds
Player RecessionPrf folds
Player packers888 calls (7.38)
*** FLOP ***: [Js Qc Kd]
*** TURN ***: [Js Qc Kd] [Ad]
*** RIVER ***: [Js Qc Kd Ad] [5s]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 17.21. Rake 0.66. JP fee 0.24
Board: [Js Qc Kd Ad 5s]
Player SecretSquirrel does not show cards.Bets: 0.10. Collects: 0. Loses: 0.10.
Player Einstein727 does not show cards.Bets: 0.28. Collects: 0. Loses: 0.28.
Player 3bet4U does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player bob998 does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player PokerrrRock does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player chuvstvavkredit does not show cards.Bets: 0. Collects: 0. Wins: 0.
Player RecessionPrf does not show cards.Bets: 0.99. Collects: 0. Loses: 0.99.
*Player packers888 shows: Straight to A [10h 8h]. Bets: 8.37. Collects: 17.21. Wins: 8.84.
Player JSpencer shows: Three Of Kind of As [Ac As]. Bets: 8.37. Collects: 0. Loses: 8.37
unfortunate
02-16-2018 , 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 45bars
unfortunate
I only posted that to show that anything can happen and does. I just thought it was a good example of the type things I saw. Unlucky.
02-17-2018 , 02:02 AM
Question - When using a HUD at one point is it too many tables to be able to read anything...single monitor. I get can get 9-12 on there easy enough, but the tables are basically shrunk as small as they will go. Just curious how ppl can read HUD's when the tables are shrunk.
02-17-2018 , 02:56 AM
They stack instead of time their tables
02-17-2018 , 05:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jspencer21
I only posted that to show that anything can happen and does. I just thought it was a good example of the type things I saw. Unlucky.
Nothing can really be determined from that hand although I wouldn't put it in the "standard play" bucket.

This site has security holes and this has been brought up time and time again for years. The problem is that a lot of the new players in USA don't realize this until they dig into the forums. This site still doesn't have cards displayed at showdown. Empower yourself, get off the cesspool. Nothing on this site will change until we start cutting into their paychecks, which is only going to be done by getting off the site and getting off of it now. If you think they are currently working on security issues you are daydreaming.

      
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