So I have been playing for about 8 years now. RIO member who recently started studying huplo. For that reason i started playing on ACR. While the huplo action was soft and plentiful I began also grinding 6m 100 and 200nl tables. About 8 tables it's then that I went on what I believe to be a downswing. Then I saw this
http://qtippoker.com/?topic=rethinki...l-stakes-poker

It got me thinking just how many ACR grinders are beating 6m games today? It's ridiculous that there's no RB. If anyone is beating ACR 25nl to 400nl 6m please post your graphs im curious.

Thanks!!

There is rakeback if you want it or the VIP program is better if you put in volume.

It's ridiculous you'd make such a ridiculously strong statement about there being no RB when ACR has the highest effective rakeback (including ROW) in the industry for ring cash games and SNGs.

I am guessing you are both ignorant to how the elite rewards work along with the beast. If you are min cashing the beast every week (which is pretty easy for those stakes) and are optimizing either elite rewards (or flat 27% rakeback) it's near impossible not to get 60%+ in effective rakeback. 60% is just the bottom end of what is doable as the elite rewards has tiers.

This chart https://professionalrakeback.com/sit...ison-chart.png can help guide you on whether you're better off on 27% rakeback or elite rewards. Mind you the elite rewards are Jan-Dec so if you're just starting now will be hard to get the maximum out of elite until January. If you prefer 27% rakeback you just have to contact support and switch.

That article was written when the Beast and Sit and Crush were being paid for by the players (an extra rake). ACR stopped that a few years. Huge difference.

People who play hu don't get to see any of that rakeback. Am I missing something? I have put in roughly 70k hands on most of which was hu. The only benefit i received was a phone call saying i had enough points to play the Sunday million which i cashed for so in some sense i did benefit from the points but i don't believe hu players get any rakeback in traditional sense. Also if those of you who responded could share are you guys beating the game before rakeback? If so by how much?

I am totally confused i contacted support and asked about 27% rakeback and they had no idea what i was talking about. They said i can just do the beast or snc.

There are two options. Elite which is the points you receive which you can exchange for cash or a flat 27% rakeback.

People who play heads up who are on rakeback would receive rakeback yes.

I imagine you will have a fair amount of CPs

In your life you have the chance to swap to rakeback if you wish. However what thrash was saying that if you cash in the beast that is considered extra rakeback.

However if you only play heads up you dont get points towards the beast.

If you are getting combat points those are defacto rakeback. It's the same as FPPs were on the old pokerstars, you turn them into cash or other prizes as you see fit.

Couldn't someone figure this out by themselves with just a little reading?

Just looking at this chart. Does this mean if you are looking to rake more than $1,818.18 per year, you are better off with Elite Rewards than 27% flat RB?

Second question is, if you choose flat 27% when you sign up, can you switch to rewards later?

I am not fully understanding the Total Bonus column (which is the sum of Acc Bonus + Store Bonus) and the Total Bonus TB's column (which is the sum of Acc Bonus + TB Convert). Do you get both of these bonuses when you sign up for Elite Rewards?

Thanks.

They let you switch back and forth one time I believe. You are VIP by default if you choose to switch to rake back you can switch back one time.

Based on this chart, its always better to convert your CP/PPs to T$ rather than use them in the Store for Cash Bonus. And from doing some quick research it seems that you can easily convert the T$ back to Cash by contacting customer service.

There must be something there I am missing?

I thought WPN didn't transfer T$ to $$$. I think I remember someone complaining about that but I could be totally wrong as I don't have experience with that whatsoever.

Would you mind elaborating, I'm considering switching to elite for 2018. Maybe a sticky thread from you guys up top would be good since this gets brought up so often.

Incorrect.. Its a one time switch

You pretty much want to cross into 7K points every month for elite to surpass rakeback.

7K Rank Points? Or CPP/PP? Also is converting T$ to cash 1:1 possible or no?

The chart is a little outdated, can't turn points into $TB. The 7k points being referred to (actually just over 8k as it'd take 100k on the year) is referring to rank points

And they say pokers dead

So what about people beating small stakes pre rakeback?

Are you certain about the heads up part? I’m not positive but I don’t think I’ve received any rakeback the last few times I played high stakes hu.

I play mostly hu and i called support demanding rakeback turns out i had about $900 in bonuses that i converted.

I know that you are supposed to yes. There is no reason not to. Remember that the rake is so low when you are HU maybe it doesnt affect your actual rakeback and unfortunately this is something i wont be able to test.

The best option here is , PM me your username and let me check

Wat? You end up paying way more rake HU because you're in every hand. I've had issues with rakeback in the past and also have continuously had issues with the bonuses, just email support and have them do an audit.

play on ACR small stakes to improve, don't expect to win