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02-06-2018 , 09:01 PM
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Hello, I'm a nl25 6max poker player. I just found this bots in winning poker netwok that play in my level. I don't Know if the bots are playing in other levels. They are good bots and all of them play the same way.
I hope that winning poker can fix this problem.

The nicks of the bots are: Beautyh1ps, K1ngBradley, haba_haba, btwiwin,
wahtEvvER, Mumintroll, Farmboy11, lablador1010, urmiine, bigant33, PersonaGrata2016, jackofALL11, procustean, GorgeoLexi, Godbadugly.

Others that I no have a lot of hands but I know they are bots for the: Bet
missed last action on flop. The nicks are: Beav1s, SassyLaura, 4everdrunk.
02-07-2018 , 10:41 PM
you gotta message that stuff to a rep.
02-08-2018 , 06:40 AM
02-08-2018 , 08:17 AM
stats certainly look suspicious. they look near identical to the first lot of bots i posted about in the other nl cash bots thread

unfortunately wpn doesn't give a ****
02-08-2018 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Justcalll
you gotta message that stuff to a rep.

I can't send the email to the stuff here because I'm new in the forum. Can anyone send the email for me?

Thanks a lot.
02-08-2018 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by john908
I can't send the email to the stuff here because I'm new in the forum. Can anyone send the email for me?

Thanks a lot.
I think you mean PM (private message), and you can now as I have enabled it for you.
02-08-2018 , 02:00 PM
how long does it take forPM's post to be enabled?

I ask on behalf of someone who would like to contribute to the discussion with a rather large database

hey wpn getting more people to come outof the dark and to the community

TY
02-08-2018 , 02:51 PM
Give it a few days and a few posts. We don't like to reveal the exact numbers so as not to make things easy for the spammers and scammers, but neither threshold is all that high.
02-08-2018 , 06:34 PM
thanks! and understandable

was wondering why it wasn't posted anywhere and felt strange having to ask but makes sense now
02-08-2018 , 10:03 PM
Frustrating...

Well get procrustean off the site he owns my soul
02-09-2018 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
lol ****
02-09-2018 , 09:58 AM
What is average WWSF in multiway % for human player?

Doesn't have to be WPN.
The bots usually bring down WWSF for human players.
Would be nice to see that average stat in non-bot pool.


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02-09-2018 , 12:34 PM
Majority of those accounts were suspected bots in a thread a few years back with same evidence. I provided an excel sheet at the time with stats, and blocking out the account names with an open invitation for WPN to get the names/stats if they requested. Nothing was ever said in the thread or PM'd requesting the suspicious data. Since, I've always questioned what the actual process is regarding these reported issues with the integrity/security team.

A handful of these alleged bots are actually winners, while the majority of others are BE/slight losers but grind a lot - so they make it all back + more in RB. My suspicion is that it's several different persons who bought the bot from the same source, and the winning bots have their programmers tweak certain stats to exploit population better than the standard blueprint.

I was very proactive in collecting data, spent a lot of time researching accounts, and attempting to bring it to light at the time.. I want to love WPN so bad, but after finding my attempts/time/energy to be moot I decided to move most of my playing time to a different site. Still use 15-20% of my playing time on WPN, only when games seem fair with all 5 other players not being from Eastern Europe.

These bots will always have the biggest advantage over humans and that's no emotion.
02-09-2018 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aqb
Majority of those accounts were suspected bots in a thread a few years back with same evidence. I provided an excel sheet at the time with stats, and blocking out the account names with an open invitation for WPN to get the names/stats if they requested. Nothing was ever said in the thread or PM'd requesting the suspicious data. Since, I've always questioned what the actual process is regarding these reported issues with the integrity/security team.

A handful of these alleged bots are actually winners, while the majority of others are BE/slight losers but grind a lot - so they make it all back + more in RB. My suspicion is that it's several different persons who bought the bot from the same source, and the winning bots have their programmers tweak certain stats to exploit population better than the standard blueprint.

I was very proactive in collecting data, spent a lot of time researching accounts, and attempting to bring it to light at the time.. I want to love WPN so bad, but after finding my attempts/time/energy to be moot I decided to move most of my playing time to a different site. Still use 15-20% of my playing time on WPN, only when games seem fair with all 5 other players not being from Eastern Europe.

These bots will always have the biggest advantage over humans and that's no emotion.


Seems like the typical game contains 4 Eastern European accounts and 2 random Americans. Extremely disappointing.
02-09-2018 , 02:40 PM
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I want to love WPN so bad, but after finding my attempts/time/energy to be moot I decided to move most of my playing time to a different site. Still use 15-20% of my playing time on WPN, only when games seem fair with all 5 other players not being from Eastern Europe
same

I was first in after black friday to say on quad jacks hey guys I know we all sad and should be but hey this site doyles has huge potential to transition to our go to.

of course it was glitched and frustrating but support was top notch then, cashouts legit, and at time security ratings were above the rest of the options.

I rallied many of my regional friends out of the dark spot they were in to give the site a try.

it has been a strange road at doyle/wpn, while many things are great some disconnect happened over last 2 to 3 years and while it seems things are on the rise with prizepools other areas just went yuck.

the site really deflated me by not publicly confirming the group of HUSNG bots were taken off and not refunding even the rake at very least let alone net losses or some other form of compensation esp after it was long brought to their attention.

heck a wpn rep before jackpots openly admitted HUSNG were at time high percentage of the winning population on site meaning net cashout profitable and seemed to take the form that many say pokerstars took going casino driven and I should have seen it coming cuz the CEO openly said he wants to be like pokerstars I guess I just thought he meant the pokerstars after partypoker went down not the take it all pokerstars

aweee rant over cuz really that is what all of these words we all write are and nothing more cuz nothing will ever be done to correct this situation that has been brewing for years
02-10-2018 , 04:14 AM
Stealing that hud btw. Very nice sir.
02-10-2018 , 12:49 PM
it's getting sick to think about how much "dirty" money has been taken out of the poker ecosystem. People want to be quick to label a poker player as a dirtbag but hey, let's not forget about the computer nerds that are capable of stealing while they are in the bathrooms stroking their peter's
02-10-2018 , 11:05 PM
Well Joey shining light on possible collusion botting hasn't stopped the Ukranian action at the micros tonight.

Maybe ACR security should monitor when certain accounts from a certain country always sit and leave the same tables at the same time. As well as the playing stats/habits of certain accounts from those countries.
02-11-2018 , 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hAmThEkIlLeR

Maybe ACR security should monitor when certain accounts from a certain country always sit and leave the same tables at the same time. As well as the playing stats/habits of certain accounts from those countries.
Can anyone actually verify that WPN has a security department? We're all talking as if it's a guaranteed fact that they do, but at this point it seems completely impossible to me that any security department could fail to notice absolutely everything, forever, despite the fact that it's so obvious, so easily detectable, and also the fact that people have complained daily, for years.

It's much easier for me to believe that someone copied a few email responses from pokerstars security, and the network "security department" consists simply of just one pleb replying to every complaint with one of those standard responses from an email titled "security@wpnpoker".
02-11-2018 , 09:39 AM
i know it takes a ton of time for regulars and -EV at best to expose the botting on ACR for the love of the game of poker. Keep it up guys. Question however. If I can't even pronounce their country they come from on Americas Cardroom? is it worth my time to label them as a bot? Just curious?
02-11-2018 , 10:53 AM
WinningTD is quick to get on here and shill some random new promo, but when there is accusations its all crickets....

VPN collusion security is non existant, amongst the other scams that Joey has uncovered, this would be a time for a response from these people
02-11-2018 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Janice7776
WinningTD is quick to get on here and shill some random new promo, but when there is accusations its all crickets....

VPN collusion security is non existant, amongst the other scams that Joey has uncovered, this would be a time for a response from these people
Put yourself in Winning TD shoes

The CEO and General manager are Liars! The security dep and the customers service dep are basically incompetent!

The CEO he does not give a **** nor does the general manager!

The tourney director does care but he does not have enough power to do anything

He is trying to do quality control customer service and security on the side the best he can

The best thing WPN can do is to pomote winning TD into a position of power to do what he needs to do.

The best thinG phil can do is to make TD the manager and make him resposible for this stuff

Then this stuff will start to end and things will get better

This company needs a new general manager Adrianna needs to GO!

BTW winning td hates me I have drove the man crazy

this whole situation is ridiculous but winning td is the only one who has done anything to help

please stop bashing TD becuase im telling you people if he gets stressed and quits we are all going to get full flushed

this company top to bottem is run very bad a new GM is required
02-11-2018 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KindFLop
Put yourself in Winning TD shoes

The CEO and General manager are Liars! The security dep and the customers service dep are basically incompetent!

The CEO he does not give a **** nor does the general manager!

The tourney director does care but he does not have enough power to do anything

He is trying to do quality control customer service and security on the side the best he can

The best thing WPN can do is to pomote winning TD into a position of power to do what he needs to do.

The best thinG phil can do is to make TD the manager and make him resposible for this stuff

Then this stuff will start to end and things will get better

This company needs a new general manager Adrianna needs to GO!

BTW winning td hates me I have drove the man crazy

this whole situation is ridiculous but winning td is the only one who has done anything to help

please stop bashing TD becuase im telling you people if he gets stressed and quits we are all going to get full flushed

this company top to bottem is run very bad a new GM is required
I agree with you for the most part and I think WPNTD is a just doing the best he can, I'm not convinced that Phil Nagy is an evil person and its possible that there is things going on that we don't know, but all scenarios are possible that its all an inside job, its incompetence, its deliberate sabotage of online poker etc etc

but WPNTD is still the spokesperson that interacts between the 2p2 community and WPN, so these are the times where he earns his paycheck, by communicating.....
02-11-2018 , 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by KindFLop
Put yourself in Winning TD shoes

please stop bashing TD becuase im telling you people if he gets stressed and quits we are all going to get full flushed
If he quits I can assure I wouldn't lose a second of sleep. WPN would have us wipe their a$$e$ with our money if they could, or are we already?

Get off the cesspool
02-12-2018 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Janice7776
I agree with you for the most part and I think WPNTD is a just doing the best he can, I'm not convinced that Phil Nagy is an evil person and its possible that there is things going on that we don't know, but all scenarios are possible that its all an inside job, its incompetence, its deliberate sabotage of online poker etc etc

but WPNTD is still the spokesperson that interacts between the 2p2 community and WPN, so these are the times where he earns his paycheck, by communicating.....
No they have a rep for all that stuff

Anything he does he does on his own

      
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