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Old 07-18-2015, 10:02 PM   #251
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Re: 60 min LR MTT;s

Also 90% of the current site is on the flattish payout scale I've ever seen. The nightly 8k pays 12 spots with under 50 entries. That's insane, 12 spots with under 50 entries!
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Old 07-18-2015, 10:05 PM   #252
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Yes it's really the case. Not only that but if you are a winning player you are more then willing to take on a little more variance in exchange for a higher ROI when you make deep runs.
YOU JUST VALIDATED ALL MY PREVIOUS POST,S TODAY..

A REC NEED NOT DEPOSIT ON ACR. THE 180LATE AND!! THE GI60 IS FOR REG,PRO AND GRINDER.

THERE IS NOTHING REC FRIENDLY ABOUT ACR. ACTUALLY ITS QUITE THE OPPOSITE..

THANK YOU BROTHER..

EVEN WHEN THEY MADE THE GI60. THEY ALTERED THE PAYOUT STRUCTURE DRAMATICLY. FOR U GUYS..

THE 180 LATE U CAN CASH EVERY DAY AND LOSE. THAT3 HOUR LATE AND THE PAYOUT STRUCTURE MAKESIT IMPOSSIBLE THATS ALSO WHY WHEN THEY MADE THE GI60 THE PAYOUTS ARE ONLY A COUPLE ON THE TIPPITY TOP..

THERE STUCK IN THAT REG,PRO AND GRINDER MENTALITY AND HAVE ANIMOSITY FOR ANYTHING LESS..

REC,S NEED NOT APPLY. THERE PROACTIVLY USING US AS CANNON FODDER
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Old 07-18-2015, 10:38 PM   #253
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Listen you ranting idiot. Recs and fish play for fun and the chance at a nice score. They're not playing to brag to their friends the next day they min caused for 1.2x their buyin. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's wrong or has to be changed to please you. Every single post is a whinning ***** post from you. Move on.

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Old 07-18-2015, 11:20 PM   #254
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LIKE I SAID U MADE MY POINT...

RECS ON ACR ARE JUST CANNON FODDER...

ON OUR OWN WE ARE FISH BUT THATS NOT ENOUGH FOR ACR AND THERE STABLE OF NITS.

THEY CHANGED THE PAYOUT TO BE AS STINGY TO THE FIELD AS POSSIBLE IN THE GI60. WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A REC WOULD HAVE A CHANCE OF DOUBLING THERE ENTRY, AND OF COURSE THE 180 LATE IS SO LIBERAL A REC WOULD ACTUALLY LOSE MONEY WHILE PLACING.. THE GI60 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR REC. BUT OF COURSE NOT THAT SIMPLE FOR ACR..

HMMM, THE DICOTOMY IS INTRESTING.. IM SURE THAT OPOSING PAYOUT STRUCTURES IS A COIINCEDENCE. NOT TO HELP THE WINNERS LIKE U! SAID!

THEY SPOON FEED U GUYS. WHETEHER THE 180LATE WERE WE WILL LOSE EVEN CASHING OR THE GI60 WERE ALL THE MONEY IS SOOO CONDENSED.. U SAID IT YOURSELF THE WINNING PLAYERS PREFER IT THAT WAY. THEY COULDNT EVEN DO THE GI60 WITHOUT FIXING IT FOR YOU GUYS.!!!

NO RELOAD BONUS BECOUSE YOU GUYS WHORE THEM OUT. THE ON DEMANDS AND SIT N CRUSH ALL COLLUDED BY U GUYS TO BONUS WHORE IT(AT THE VERY LEAST!?!) THATS LOCKED DOWN... THEY COULDNT!! EVEN REALLY GIVE US THE GI60.. DUDE, ITS SELF EVIDENT. STOP ACTING LIKE OBAMA(WHO ME?)

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Old 07-18-2015, 11:45 PM   #255
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Is this really the case? Do people not realize how unlikely they are to make it into such an exclusive club, payout be damned? People really need 20x their buy-in for first place, 10x isn't good enough even if it guarantees you more security?

And obviously nobody wants to play a tourney where it takes too long to get to the money and they don't even make back their entry fee. Bottom pay should be no less than double your money, 1.5x your fee at the very bare minimum and that would have to be when the tourney is really filling up.

Again, enlighten me, "I'm a donkey."
AGREE...

THE NIT/REC RATIO IS OUT OF HAND ON ACR. THAT IS NOT DEBATABLE.. ON ANY FORUM OR PODCASTE ITS ONE OF THE MAIN COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE BETTER AND SMARTER THEN ME..

THERE REALLY IS A PROACTIVE! ANIMOSITY FOR US. THEY TREAT US LIKE A NECASSARY EVIL.

ACR AND THERE STABLE OF NITS ARE STUCK IN A PRE BF ELITEST MENTALITY. ONLY THE HARDCORE NEED HANG OUT. ITS NOT ENOUPH THEY CAN KICK OUR AS@, THEY HAVE TO TWEEK THE STRUCTURES TO ASSURE IT. EVEN! THE! GI60

THEY TOOK THERE BUM HUNTING MENTALITY TO A CORPORATE LEVEL. THEY TWEEKED THE ****$ TO BANG US OUT SOME MORE..

THEY WILL DENY IT AND THE NITS WILL PRETEND NOT TO KNOW WHAT WERE TALKING ABOUT OR DEFLECT AND REDIRECT THE ARGUMENT

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Old 07-19-2015, 11:16 AM   #256
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Yes it's really the case. Not only that but if you are a winning player you are more then willing to take on a little more variance in exchange for a higher ROI when you make deep runs.
Well, as a winning player, I'd much rather make a set amount of money a day with the option of hitting it big after a deep run to make big time profit, after I've already made my daily quota. This is why I miss DONs so much, free money, make your x per day, then spend some on a tourney and try to hit it big.

The DONs/SNGs are your bread and butter and the tourneys are your Christmas bonus. As it is I'm playing tourneys trying to turn a daily profit and snapping up any SNG I can be so fortunate as to find. It ain't as easy as it used to be, and there's no reason for it to be this way with 50/50s just begging to be posted on this site.

I don't know if my "slow-and-steady make a little bit every day and let it total up as the weeks go by" preferred method of building up a bankroll makes me a rec, a reg, or a grinder, but that's my style, and it seems nigh impossible because the SNGs are so rare. The deep runs need not be the only way of making money in poker, but they seem to be in ACR. When I was down after the DONs were cancelled and JPP ate up about 10 buyins the only way I got out of it was playing maybe .550 in HU and SNGs and then hitting first a couple times in some big tourneys. Since then I've learned to crush the 4man and 6man SNGs so I could do a lot better than .550 if only they'd pop more often, so OD games are still the only reliable opportunity, but with a lot more variance than the old SNG glory days.

I still think ACR is drunk off the teat of JPP and endless rake and they're reluctant to improve SNG games for this reason.

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Old 07-19-2015, 11:59 AM   #257
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Sparten1 please stop posting for a while. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, nobody knows what you're talking about, and nobody cares.

You say things like you want to be able to limp to a min cash, and everyone else is a nit in the same post. Just stop. The payout structures are fine. Actually, they're perfect in the GI60M tournaments. I hope these payout structures get implemented across the board.

You can't always get what you want, especially when nobody understands what you want, and you whine and whine louder and louder. Take a breather and calm down.
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Old 07-19-2015, 01:54 PM   #258
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Well, as a winning player, I'd much rather make a set amount of money a day with the option of hitting it big after a deep run to make big time profit, after I've already made my daily quota. This is why I miss DONs so much, free money, make your x per day, then spend some on a tourney and try to hit it big.

The DONs/SNGs are your bread and butter and the tourneys are your Christmas bonus. As it is I'm playing tourneys trying to turn a daily profit and snapping up any SNG I can be so fortunate as to find. It ain't as easy as it used to be, and there's no reason for it to be this way with 50/50s just begging to be posted on this site.

I don't know if my "slow-and-steady make a little bit every day and let it total up as the weeks go by" preferred method of building up a bankroll makes me a rec, a reg, or a grinder, but that's my style, and it seems nigh impossible because the SNGs are so rare. The deep runs need not be the only way of making money in poker, but they seem to be in ACR. When I was down after the DONs were cancelled and JPP ate up about 10 buyins the only way I got out of it was playing maybe .550 in HU and SNGs and then hitting first a couple times in some big tourneys. Since then I've learned to crush the 4man and 6man SNGs so I could do a lot better than .550 if only they'd pop more often, so OD games are still the only reliable opportunity, but with a lot more variance than the old SNG glory days.

I still think ACR is drunk off the teat of JPP and endless rake and they're reluctant to improve SNG games for this reason.
Agree
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Old 07-19-2015, 01:58 PM   #259
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Sparten1 please stop posting for a while. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, nobody knows what you're talking about, and nobody cares.

You say things like you want to be able to limp to a min cash, and everyone else is a nit in the same post. Just stop. The payout structures are fine. Actually, they're perfect in the GI60M tournaments. I hope these payout structures get implemented across the board.

You can't always get what you want, especially when nobody understands what you want, and you whine and whine louder and louder. Take a breather and calm down.
Be a nit, deflect and redirect.. Criticize my lack of literary skiss, however..

MY COMPLAINT IS VALID AS WELL AS THE INTENT OF ACR SPOON FEEDING YOU GUYS AND Tottal REC ANYMOSITY..

PAYOUT SO LIBERAL IN THE 180 LATE WHERE A REC CAN CASH EVERY DAY AND LOSE.. YET!! THE GI60 SO TIGHT.. HMMM?! CANT LET THE RECS HAVE A CHANCE OF DOUBLING UP.

ITS LIKE CHARLIE BROWN AND LUCY ALWAYS MOVING THE FOOTBALL ON HIM. YOU! AINT THAT STUPID..

RECS NEED NOT APPLY. YOU THINK THE EXTREME DIFFRENCE IN PAYOUT STRUCTURE WASNT WELL THOUGHT OUT.. OK?

OBAMA FOUND OUT ABOUT BENGAZI, THE IRS, ECT, ECT IN THE MORNING PAPER LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. OK?

YOUR NOT STUPID. ITS JUST FKN GRIMY AND DIRTY THOSE "SUTTLE" MOVES THEY MAKE TO FRUSTRATE RECS AND PROACTIVLY GO OUT!!! OF THERE WAY TO BRING YOU GUYS EVEN MORE DINNER.

RECS NEED NOT APPLY

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Old 07-19-2015, 05:29 PM   #260
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Re: 60 min LR MTT;s

Smh.
"Subtle" btw.
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Old 07-20-2015, 12:32 PM   #261
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Thesparten.

You turn every thread into the same arguement. Please stop. If you want to carry on posting in the forums i would advise you to start your own thread and stick to that.

I will ask for a ban from the sub forum if you continue to turn every thread you write in, into the same comments.

You are incorrect but i respect your opinion. It doesnt matter what me or anyone else says, you will not change your opinion but if you dont like it there are other options.

FWIW I guess stars have near enough the same steeper payout for the same reason that we do.
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Old 07-20-2015, 05:52 PM   #262
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$16+1.60 entry $500 GTD GI60M 3k SS 15 min levels

Will be replacing the current 8.15pm starting tomorrow.
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Old 07-20-2015, 11:06 PM   #263
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still no plans to add more lower buyin tournaments? I find my self playing 1 tournament and then playing a mix of jackpot poker tables. I would like to play 3-4 tournaments at once but if i make a deep run in one of the 12 level tournaments i don't think i have the time commitment to stay up that late.
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:13 AM   #264
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still no plans to add more lower buyin tournaments? I find my self playing 1 tournament and then playing a mix of jackpot poker tables. I would like to play 3-4 tournaments at once but if i make a deep run in one of the 12 level tournaments i don't think i have the time commitment to stay up that late.
WPN prefers you to play like that...
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Old 07-22-2015, 04:20 AM   #265
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Thesparten.

You turn every thread into the same arguement. Please stop. If you want to carry on posting in the forums i would advise you to start your own thread and stick to that.

I will ask for a ban from the sub forum if you continue to turn every thread you write in, into the same comments.

You are incorrect but i respect your opinion. It doesnt matter what me or anyone else says, you will not change your opinion but if you dont like it there are other options.

FWIW I guess stars have near enough the same steeper payout for the same reason that we do.
Don't worry, I'm spending majority if time at full flush.. It's inferior to you in a lot of ways but it is rec friendly..

I would say they don't have the same problem of rec/reg issue for some reason.

Over there rec are welcomed and rewarded....

Many of the players there feel the same way. They like acr but the late and the place is full of nits. It's just not rec friendly..

Open an account there and ask in chat what they think of acr?!?

They want to have fun like me not be served for dinner...acr us really stuck in that pre bf mentality..
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Old 07-22-2015, 05:17 AM   #266
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Why is it that in the 180+ late tournaments where the average rentry per player is over 2x that the payout structure is so loose that u can cash everyday and lose money.

Why us it that the gi60 that generally was for the recs, the payout structure is soooo steep..

U couldn't add a couple of spots where we could limp a double our entry.. You really are playing a numbers game there. Need I make the Charlie Brown missing the football when Lucy keeps moving it analogy again.. Cmon dude..we both know why that is...

Back in the 80,s we used too take money from tourists at times square setting up 3 card monty on a milk crate..dude Please..

Sell it too the choir or those who graduated public school and think obamacare was about health insurance..
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Old 07-22-2015, 12:33 PM   #267
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Why is it that in the 180+ late tournaments where the average rentry per player is over 2x that the payout structure is so loose that u can cash everyday and lose money.
People that make poor decisions at the poker table generally lose money. If someone is repeatedly re-entering, repeated losing money when they cash, and continue to play tournaments that way, then they deserve to lose money.

I agree with the push for the GI60M tournaments, especially at the micro level, but you are really making it difficult to take this push seriously. It's bad enough that your posts border on incoherency, that part can be mostly overlooked, but I see you posting in many WPN threads, even threads that have nothing to do with the GI60M tournaments, and derailing them. Add to that, you add a bunch of nonsense to the end of your posts that has nothing to do with the points you are trying to get across. And this is from someone that wants to see more GI60M tournaments, a flatter payout schedule in the micros, a mincash of 1.5-2x the buyin, and ~15%-ish of the field getting paid in the micro fields.
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Old 07-22-2015, 12:36 PM   #268
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Thesparten, everyone in the poker world knows exactly what you think. You post the same comments in every thread. Your opinion is your opinion and i respect that.

When you keep saying gi60m was set up to reward regs you couldnt be further from the truth.

I wish you the best of luck at full flush. However please stop with the constant negativity in our threads.

Thanks
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Thesparten, everyone in the poker world knows exactly what you think. You post the same comments in every thread. Your opinion is your opinion and i respect that.

When you keep saying gi60m was set up to reward regs you couldnt be further from the truth.

I wish you the best of luck at full flush. However please stop with the constant negativity in our threads.

Thanks
OK..

No one is a 100% right/wrong..

There is A LOT of validity to what I've been saying...
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People that make poor decisions at the poker table generally lose money. If someone is repeatedly re-entering, repeated losing money when they cash, and continue to play tournaments that way, then they deserve to lose money.

I agree with the push for the GI60M tournaments, especially at the micro level, but you are really making it difficult to take this push seriously. It's bad enough that your posts border on incoherency, that part can be mostly overlooked, but I see you posting in many WPN threads, even threads that have nothing to do with the GI60M tournaments, and derailing them. Add to that, you add a bunch of nonsense to the end of your posts that has nothing to do with the points you are trying to get across. And this is from someone that wants to see more GI60M tournaments, a flatter payout schedule in the micros, a mincash of 1.5-2x the buyin, and ~15%-ish of the field getting paid in the micro fields.
I won't argue with most of what you said.. Literary skills aside there is validity to my post. I think you recognize that.
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Old 07-22-2015, 02:17 PM   #271
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I do, which is why I added the last sentence. I'm just saying that by bringing the issue up in so many (unrelated) threads, you are making it easier to be brushed aside.
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Old 07-23-2015, 04:25 PM   #272
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the 60min late reg MTTs are great....15min levels are ok if accompanied by shallower starting stacks...otherwise i think 12mins are better...IMO deep stacks + 15min levels is just too over the top/too much of a grind. i really like the G60 tournies with less paid....more paid out if u cash...brings more excitment/more of a rush (i think thats what tournament poker is all about)....these tournaments arent overly time consuming which is great as well....i skip the 7pms which i would like to play because they end at 2am where i'll play even the 8:45pm G60 bbecause it doesnt end late at all. please have more of those...great addition to the schedule...thanks.
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Old 07-23-2015, 07:10 PM   #273
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they need to change the structure of the 109 that starts at 8est.....the tournament doesn't end till 4ish est - no one wants to be up that late
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Old 07-23-2015, 10:48 PM   #274
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they need to change the structure of the 109 that starts at 8est.....the tournament doesn't end till 4ish est - no one wants to be up that late
Holy good god...what in the world? Glad I don't play that one lol.
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Old 07-24-2015, 07:20 AM   #275
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50/50 bounty tournaments with 1hr late reg: yes or hell yes?
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