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06-09-2019 , 06:05 PM
Seems like a good topic for this forum. And recently in the news: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...is/1123185001/

I don't think anyone denies the dark side. There are plenty of of people participating in this world for unfortunate reasons.

And I do wonder if you can truly separate that fact from the experience of the viewer. That's where things seem very complicated. But what if that part didn't exist? What if all legal pornography was created by amateurs in existing relationships? And everyone knew it?
06-09-2019 , 10:47 PM
I know there's a fair amount of social science research on pornography, but I am not very familiar with it. I doubt there's any consensus or strong evidence that would support the AZ senators' claims that it's poisoning society, but I'd guess the effects are complicated and not altogether positive.

To me one of the more fascinating things about porn is just how much of it there is, and how much is consumed, in comparison to how little we talk about it in popular culture. So for example if you compare the amount of words or media coverage of GoT to the ratings of the show, there's a pretty big ratio of talk about Game of Thrones to people watching Game of Thrones. On the other hand, the ratio is enormously skewed in the other direction for public discussion about porn vs viewership.
06-10-2019 , 07:49 AM
Former World Chess Champion Mikhail Tal once eloquently stated his opinion on Soviet Prohibition attempts:
"The State against Vodka? I will be on the side of Vodka!"
I will defer to that opinion regarding porn.

Seriously though I wish I had the same access to porn when I was growing up as I do today. Some skills, like properly eating pussy and a few others would leave my high school partners a lot more satisfied than they otherwise were.
06-13-2019 , 10:55 AM
Addiction to porn is more of a problem than porn alone, at least that's what I think. Some porn can be educational and lead to a healthy exploration of one's sexuality. I'd rather have that than repression.
06-19-2019 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
Seems like a good topic for this forum. And recently in the news: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...is/1123185001/

I don't think anyone denies the dark side. There are plenty of of people participating in this world for unfortunate reasons.

And I do wonder if you can truly separate that fact from the experience of the viewer. That's where things seem very complicated. But what if that part didn't exist? What if all legal pornography was created by amateurs in existing relationships? And everyone knew it?
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Similar pornography-crisis measures have passed in more than 10 other states, relying on model legislation written by the National Center on Sexual Exploitation.*
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National Center on Sexual Exploitation (NCSE), formerly Morality in Media (MIM), is the leading national organization dedicated to opposing pornography by highlighting the links to sex trafficking, violence against women, child abuse, and addiction.

OUR MISSION: Defending human dignity. Confronting sexual exploitation.
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Morality in Media (MIM) announced today that they are calling for a nationwide protest of*Oprah Winfrey's OWN Network. The group cites that the network embraces the reckless glorification of sexual violence and torture.

According to MIM, "the Season Premier of*Lisa Ling's Our America*on OWN...portrayed the graphic depiction of "BDSM" sex (bondage, discipline, dominance, submission, sadism, and masochism)...replete with whips, chains, handcuffs, and assorted tools of sexual torture."

"Women want to be loved, adored, and cherished, not whipped, dominated, and humiliated," said Dawn Hawkins, MIM Executive Director. "Oprah and her OWN cable network seem desperate to bootstrap their flagging ratings to the tawdry and titillating world of sadomasochism portrayed in the bestseller, 50 Shades of Grey," she added
https://www.broadwayworld.com/bwwtv/...lence-20130131

I think all these morality type organizations have rebranded themselves as the defenders against the exploitation of children and human trafficking in porn as their new facade. They were successful in getting FOSTA SESTA passed. But that's why all their links between porn and what they're claiming are pretty tenuous. It's because they're not really out there studying if its true or to what extent.

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 06-19-2019 at 11:45 PM.
06-26-2019 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
And I do wonder if you can truly separate that fact from the experience of the viewer. That's where things seem very complicated. But what if that part didn't exist? What if all legal pornography was created by amateurs in existing relationships? And everyone knew it?
Well it certainly seems like the AZ legislature is much more interested in the impact on viewers:

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"Billions of dollars worldwide are being made upon this industry that is poisoning the minds of our citizens," Allen said, calling porn "the root problem for many of the other problems that we're experiencing." She said it contributes to sexual activity at young ages, sexually transmitted diseases and unplanned pregnancies.

"It has morphed into something … horrible," she said.
They do mention human trafficking but it seems pretty clear they just think watching porn poisons minds. Which would lead one to believe that they would feel exactly the same even if it was only amateurs in relationships who were filming themselves.

In general I would say watching porn is not harmless to the viewer... but I'd say the same about marijuana or alcohol and I don't want those banned either.

Last edited by revots33; 06-26-2019 at 11:58 AM.
06-27-2019 , 10:02 PM
Part of me wonders, how and why?

How does funding exist in the U.S for these "organizations" dedicated for something as insane as trying to ban or "stop" pornography? Like who would look at this "problem" and be like "oh yeah we can stop this evil!!!" without bursting out laughing. Is it stupid religious gullibillies in the south funding this or what?

Do they think the millions of websites on the internet will be forced to close shop? Its literally impossible, with literally being used correctly for once. You cannot shut down millions of websites. Its impossible. Also anyone with a VPN, which takes 0.01 seconds to get, can just circumvent any laws that are passed in the insane chance they do.

Porn has never been banned in any 1st world country and literally just gets bigger(lol) and more mainstream every year.
07-14-2019 , 12:37 AM
Porn is 2 easily accessible now but I don’t think it should ban but needs more regulations.

      
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