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03-10-2013 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Skinny Bunner
This new rule kinda sucks and I doubt it has anything to do with the legality. When you sit at a table, especially multiple tables, you are implicitly announcing that you will take any and all comers. If you can't even handle playing 30 hands with someone then you really don't have the roll or the skill to compete at the stakes you're sitting at.
Agreed. If you won't play all comers, don't play.
03-10-2013 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Renee Revel
Rule clarification... (to be officially added to T&C shortly) Hope this helps some of you that don't like this policy...

Players' play may be suspended or terminated at our sole discretion for any issues including excessive use of inappropriate language or repeatedly not respecting other players' wishes (e.g., if a player asks that you not play against him/her). Note: If a player (a) asks you not to play him and (b) takes up all the tables at a particular stake, then you may ask him/her to open up a table at that stake. If he/she refuses then you can play them (despite their request) since that would be the only way to play at that stake.
Thanks for the clarification! I'm going to make a copy paste thing now to post to people who have requested me not sit them.
"If you don't open up a table at this stake within 5 minutes (by XX:XX EST) you WILL be sat by me." Five minutes is MORE than enough to have them see the chat, and get up and leave.

I don't see why you guys want more tables opened up at $45 and above. This rule basically cancels out the other one if the person isn't paying attention at all. Ya, you can't sit them right away -- BUT, if they don't move you can just sit them regardless.
03-10-2013 , 09:43 PM
How will this rule be enforced if someone has their chat disabled?
Not sure thats possible but i think i remember it being in the works if im not mistaken.
Just dont chat and noone can ask u to not sit them
03-10-2013 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hankwhite69
How will this rule be enforced if someone has their chat disabled?
Not sure thats possible but i think i remember it being in the works if im not mistaken.
Just dont chat and noone can ask u to not sit them
That is kind of doable, unless the person asks on more than one occasion starting form the beginning of the match to the end. But once chat disabling is implemented it will make it much harder to know if someone asks to not be sat or not...
03-10-2013 , 10:32 PM
plus you are obligated to keep track of who has asked you not to sit them. i don't even pay attention to half the stuff people say in chat in the first place.

unrelated, by why are there limits on full tables? seems like if people are playing on them that more should just keep opening at that stake.
03-10-2013 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DaycareInferno
plus you are obligated to keep track of who has asked you not to sit them. i don't even pay attention to half the stuff people say in chat in the first place.

unrelated, by why are there limits on full tables? seems like if people are playing on them that more should just keep opening at that stake.
Renee has said if u email support theyll open/spawn more tables per request
03-10-2013 , 11:02 PM
I assume they dont just keep spawning as not to have a lobby full of sitters requesting to not be sat.Seems a bit off,considering theyre "players wishes" rule
03-10-2013 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DaycareInferno
so you can play 1 match to open a table, or you have to agree to fold when you do that?
I'm sorry. I do not understand the question.
03-11-2013 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TiftCountyHick
Can you create more tables for higher levels. Ie. $45s and above
as soon as a table is filled another is added...

at least that is the way it is supposed to work, please tell me if it doesn't work that way
03-11-2013 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hankwhite69
How will this rule be enforced if someone has their chat disabled?
Not sure thats possible but i think i remember it being in the works if im not mistaken.
Just dont chat and noone can ask u to not sit them
Good point! Disable chat is not ready yet, but when it is available then this concept gets screwed up...

Guess we'll have to do what all the other poker sites do (i.e., allow people to confirm they want to play someone before they play them). Sigh...
03-11-2013 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Renee Revel
as soon as a table is filled another is added...

at least that is the way it is supposed to work, please tell me if it doesn't work that way

Example- I see a player sitting at a $45. I want to sit a $45 also; just not against that particular opponent. Is there any way you can open more tables per stake when only one person is sitting?

I'd like to also say that your support is great and cash out times are top notch. Can't beat 2-4 days with a $1 cash out fee!
03-11-2013 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TiftCountyHick
Example- I see a player sitting at a $45. I want to sit a $45 also; just not against that particular opponent. Is there any way you can open more tables per stake when only one person is sitting?

I'd like to also say that your support is great and cash out times are top notch. Can't beat 2-4 days with a $1 cash out fee!
I just posted u can email support to spawn whatever u want.or live chat
03-11-2013 , 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Renee Revel
I'm sorry. I do not understand the question.
it says that if someone is sitting that doesn't want to play you that you can ask them to open up a table at that stake. does that mean that they need to get up from the table they are on or to start a match to spawn another table at that stake?

edit: i guess by opening up it probably just means they need to get up if they don't want to play and there's no more tables on that stake. just want to make sure i've got it right.

Last edited by DaycareInferno; 03-11-2013 at 07:15 AM.
03-11-2013 , 08:09 AM
thanks for taking the time to deal with this, by the way. i think that you sit/you play probably makes the most sense, but as long as players that are willing to play can always get on a table i think that's the most important thing by far.
03-11-2013 , 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by knumbnuts4
Let's clarify so you can blindly defend the site again. Lol I moved down because he is a fish. I'd rather play 45 against a fish than 105 against a good reg. but you want to spin it and call it spite.

Let's see my normal game in a casino is 2/5 nl. If a fish I know is playing 1/2 and I move down a limit is that called spite? No it is called being smart.

Once again in your post of other sites rules. You mentioned chat in all of them where else but skillbet does it say you can't play someone if they ask? Exactly you skillbet fanboy.

Lastly, there are limited tables on skillbet. Basically you think it is okay to 1 take up the limited space while people are willing to play anyone AND bum hunt. Keep making sense bud. Can't wait for you to try and defend and spin this one.
I dont have to defend or spin anything because you've sat here and said that you

1. Beat someone you considered "awful"
2. Berated that fish (inappropriate language) after he asked you to stop playing him.
3. Followed that fish to a new table AFTER he moved down in stakes because you refused to honor his request (spite sit)
4. Get mad after you drive him over the edge into contacting support from a mixture of foul language and losing $$$.


And now you come here and get mad?


Maybe you should be a better poker player and learn the #1 rule, dont berate the fish. Whatever you did drove him into contacting support. So take responsibilities for your actions.

The new rule seems fair to everybody.


Lets just all hope and pray that knumbnuts4 doesn't berate and run off anymore fish with his language.

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Originally Posted by knumbnuts4
Also he asked me to sit him but also challenged me to play higher? I told him I'd play as many tables as he wants from 150 on down. He said 300 only. Sorry you don't make rules like that so if he sat at 45 or higher first I told him I would sit him. He was a huge fish.

Basically now we not only let the bad players freeroll us but we have to make sure we don't take too much money too quickly so they won't ask us to not play. Sounds fair to me

Also LOL at your main game being 500nl in a casino but refusing to play "an awful fish" at a $300 game loloololol.
03-11-2013 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by iBOOBOO
Yea because skillbet is the only company with that rule. oh wait...

http://www.carbonpoker.ag/about-us/terms.html
"Abusive or offensive language is not permitted in nicknames, the multi-player Games, chat areas or with Company staff. Any violation of this policy may result in a suspension of playing privileges or such other action as may be required by the Company to ensure compliance. You hereby agree that you shall not post any unlawful, obscene, libellous, defamatory, threatening, or other materials that would violate any law or generally be considered offensive via the website using the chat option, player avatar option, or in any correspondence with the Company’s staff. Abusive or offensive language includes, but is not limited to, any player statements that are in the Company's sole opinion, obscene, profane, racist, in bad taste, slanderous, unnecessarily hostile, or contrary to the purpose of our website's chat function."


http://lockpoker.eu/support/terms/
"Abusive or offensive language will not be tolerated in the multi-player Games, chat areas or with Company staff. Any violation of this policy may result in a suspension of playing privileges or such other action as may be required by the Company to ensure compliance. Abusive or offensive language may be, but is not limited to any player statements that are in the Company's sole opinion, obscene, profane, racist, in bad taste, slanderous, unnecessarily hostile, or contrary to the purpose of the Lock Poker chat function."


http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/tos/
"The User is prohibited from posting any unlawful, indecent, racist, obscene, libelous, defamatory or threatening material or any material that would violate any law or generally be considered to be offensive, via the Service whether using the chat function with respect to which please refer to the Card Room Rules, the player images option or in correspondence with PokerStars' staff."







Like i said, it appears knumbnuts isnt giving the full story lol. Things must have gotten really ugly for the site to remind you of this rule.
FOR THE THIRD TIME. what other site does it say you can't sit someone because they asked?

Keep avoiding it fan boy. Everyone can see you blindly defend this site as if you work for it.

Yes I play 2/5nl as my main game and also 10/20 limit live where I have a comfortable bankroll. Why in the world would I risk a high percentage of my roll at $300 games? Have you ever heard of the concept bankroll management? Maybe you would be stupid enough to have a bankroll big enough to comfortably play $300 on an unknown site that we literally have no proof is legal because guess what I can find many lawyers who said online poker was legal and we know how that turned out.
03-11-2013 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by iBOOBOO
I dont have to defend or spin anything because you've sat here and said that you

1. Beat someone you considered "awful"
2. Berated that fish (inappropriate language) after he asked you to stop playing him.
3. Followed that fish to a new table AFTER he moved down in stakes because you refused to honor his request (spite sit)
4. Get mad after you drive him over the edge into contacting support from a mixture of foul language and losing $$$.


And now you come here and get mad?


Maybe you should be a better poker player and learn the #1 rule, dont berate the fish. Whatever you did drove him into contacting support. So take responsibilities for your actions.

The new rule seems fair to everybody.


Lets just all hope and pray that knumbnuts4 doesn't berate and run off anymore fish with his language.




Also LOL at your main game being 500nl in a casino but refusing to play "an awful fish" at a $300 game loloololol.
Once again you try to spin it again. So funny.
Yes that player is awful. Fact. Berated him, sure I guess you have all your facts how about me going to support about his language also? Yeah learn the facts before you spew idiotic things.

I guess following a fish to a lower level is spite sitting but once again you don't realize to play bad players is profitable? that must be it.

Get mad about driving someone over the edge? What are you talking about, you know absolutely nothing about the situation and yet continuously blame me? You must be a rep for the site.

Fanboy NAME 1 SITE in the world you can request not to play someone because they are beating you.

But once again I doubt fanboy will have any common sense with his thoughts you know since he doesn't understand what the definition of a freeroll it lolololololol
03-11-2013 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DaycareInferno
it says that if someone is sitting that doesn't want to play you that you can ask them to open up a table at that stake. does that mean that they need to get up from the table they are on or to start a match to spawn another table at that stake?

edit: i guess by opening up it probably just means they need to get up if they don't want to play and there's no more tables on that stake. just want to make sure i've got it right.
If they are sitting at the only table(s) at a stake and won't let you play at that stake, then you can play them
03-11-2013 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Renee Revel
If they are sitting at the only table(s) at a stake and won't let you play at that stake, then you can play them
There has to be a better solution.
This is a whole lot of IF and When and What happens if,going on here
03-11-2013 , 11:34 PM
its something that could be built into the software at some point. the player already sitting could get a notification of who is joining and x seconds to accept or be ejected.
03-11-2013 , 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DaycareInferno
its something that could be built into the software at some point. the player already sitting could get a notification of who is joining and x seconds to accept or be ejected.
AhhHAH....good suggestion.
Should def implement that.
03-12-2013 , 01:16 AM
If someone is sitting at a table it is an invite. They are effectively saying "play me, I am ready". For a non sitting player to coming into a game and say "please leave, I do not want to play you" is goofy. Even worse is the sitting player who complains about players they don't want to play coming into the game. What? If you want to play, play.

My point is, it takes two people to play this game (at least the cash games). If you sit you are obligating yourself to play all comers because you are "creating" the game. If someone is sitting you have to decide if you want to play that particular person or not. It should not be anymore difficult than that. Poker is a competitive game and entitlement arguments has no value. That is what makes the game so great. It evaporates all barriers and the cream will always rises to the top. So, if you want to play, play, if you don't, don't. It is that simple.
03-12-2013 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AnyOne
If someone is sitting at a table it is an invite. They are effectively saying "play me, I am ready". For a non sitting player to coming into a game and say "please leave, I do not want to play you" is goofy. Even worse is the sitting player who complains about players they don't want to play coming into the game. What? If you want to play, play.

My point is, it takes two people to play this game (at least the cash games). If you sit you are obligating yourself to play all comers because you are "creating" the game. If someone is sitting you have to decide if you want to play that particular person or not. It should not be anymore difficult than that. Poker is a competitive game and entitlement arguments has no value. That is what makes the game so great. It evaporates all barriers and the cream will always rises to the top. So, if you want to play, play, if you don't, don't. It is that simple.
Thats what im saying
03-12-2013 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DaycareInferno
its something that could be built into the software at some point. the player already sitting could get a notification of who is joining and x seconds to accept or be ejected.
Yo,

terrific idea!
03-12-2013 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DaycareInferno
its something that could be built into the software at some point. the player already sitting could get a notification of who is joining and x seconds to accept or be ejected.
I think I'd only be for it if I had a box I could check (and un-check, i guess) to say "auto accept if someone sits." I'd much rather not have to be watching the screen that closely for if I get sat or not. Sometimes I'm watching TV or have my browser above the window.

Then again, it is a pretty awesome idea even without auto accept.

      
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