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02-12-2014 , 11:54 PM

#201

killer_kill

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Originally Posted by smokesx

Nightblue is good, I would also recommend theoddone, he pretty much always explains things while hes playing.

Yeah, I was going to say oddone as well except he hasn't been streaming too much lately.

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02-13-2014 , 01:42 AM

#202

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I can't watch Nightblue anymore, he just constantly whines about his teammates. But if you can handle that, he's definitely pretty informative.

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02-13-2014 , 02:08 AM

#203

Karak

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he whines about his teammates in a sing-songy super nice tone of voice. it's incredibly obnoxious. it's as if day9 is playing league.

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02-13-2014 , 02:15 AM

#204

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Jungle teemo is terror

i can't believe it.

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02-13-2014 , 04:57 AM

#205

killer_kill

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Originally Posted by ZomgHax

I can't watch Nightblue anymore, he just constantly whines about his teammates. But if you can handle that, he's definitely pretty informative.

I mean he asked where he could get good stuff on jungling. I feel like him and oddone are top 2, but oddone doesn't stream as often anymore.

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02-13-2014 , 05:01 AM

#206

Mr.mmmKay

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Yeah, nightblue is pretty annoying too watch.

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02-13-2014 , 05:57 AM

#207

Jah Onion

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it's as if day9 is playing league.

oh dear lord!

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02-13-2014 , 07:00 AM

#208

ReidLockhart

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I enjoy Foxdrop when he's actually streaming.

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02-14-2014 , 07:24 PM

#209

Jyprock Jones

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Ok I've been jungling a bit with Warwick. Super fun.

Question:
Should I/At what point should I be selling my monster-centric gear to upgrade to better damage against other champs?

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02-14-2014 , 07:47 PM

#210

dlorc

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When you have 6 items and can replace it with something stronger.

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02-15-2014 , 02:28 PM

#211

bottomset

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Basically at the 50 minute mark or so

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02-16-2014 , 03:59 AM

#212

g-bebe

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Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 22,860

okay, been playing most mumu jungle. have had good games thus far!

however I would say the worst and least salvageable games come when I get counter jungled on first buff. typically I'll start red and then go blue, and I can tell it'll be a tough opponent when they come counter when I'm doing blue, if say their mid or top had spotted blue was empty before minions spawned.

how to best deal with counter jungling? losing that buff is really tough to deal with.

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02-16-2014 , 04:23 AM

#213

g-bebe

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actually not just at buffs. how to effectively deal with counter jungling in general? I'm guessing I need to ping lanes and get them to help me out.

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02-16-2014 , 04:31 AM

#214

baumer

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Kindly ask your team to ward entrances to your jungle or at least river because you are vulnerable to counterjungling. If they don't help you out, farm from within the brush as much as possible and always take as much precaution as you can.

On Amumu, blue is very important for your early game so I would start there and with the level 1 presence to fend off an invade.

I usually use my yellow trinket while I'm taking my second buff for extra safety.

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02-16-2014 , 08:54 AM

#215

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spirit stone + a couple blue pots will let you farm reasonably well

you can fall pretty far behind in most games and still be ok, because your ult changes fights safely

if you fall behind on Vi, your ult is a suicide mission

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02-16-2014 , 01:47 PM

#216

looshle

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Originally Posted by g-bebe

actually not just at buffs. how to effectively deal with counter jungling in general? I'm guessing I need to ping lanes and get them to help me out.

ive played almost all amumu this season.

at start i buy as quick as i can and sprint to the blue side mid/river bush to get control of it and watch for invades. i start with warding totem so i can place it before going to my blue to watch for a late invade.

if you see them invade, you can pretty easily move to their blue and ping your team to come help. if not, you should be able to start your red and go to their blue after.

as far as counter jungling goes, i like to get a pink in the bush behind red buff after my spirit stone/boots because it lasts forever and if the enemy jungler ends up seeing it, they usually just leave it and leave your jungle

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04-10-2014 , 09:08 PM

#217

Jyprock Jones

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Is Warwick considered completely unusable now? I picked him for jung recently and got **** talked by two of my teammates. I ended up doing pretty well (4/2/8) and we rolled the game, but should I stop using him?

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04-10-2014 , 09:14 PM

#218

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He has the best sustain of junglers just absolutely **** clear

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04-10-2014 , 09:14 PM

#219

dlorc

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Warwick is really solid. People are dumb.

He's a point and click champ, if you don't play that swag lee sin with the sick mechanics then you're a scrub!

/sarcasmoff.

WW is underrated because of his simplicity. Once you get some CDR going on him his ult CD is ridiculously low, you can chase so well with the passive, and tank kite forever in tfs once you get tanky enough.

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04-10-2014 , 09:36 PM

#220

BitchiBee

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ww is one of my 2 main champs

I think he has a global 53% winrate

which is pretty good

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04-10-2014 , 09:45 PM

#221

Karak

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WW really awesome in the feral flare meta

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04-10-2014 , 10:06 PM

#222

dlorc

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Does ww have the mana to feral? I would have thought that would be rough. Maybe feral+spiritstone works out for that.

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04-11-2014 , 01:26 AM

#223

baumer

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I picked WW yesterday (felt dirty) because the other team had Yi and we needed hard CC. The guy is a beast with feral flare-boots-wit's end. I think i went frozen heart after wit's and the game was over.

He can dole out some deeps these days.

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04-11-2014 , 03:56 PM

#224

Nonfiction

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Originally Posted by dlorc

Does ww have the mana to feral? I would have thought that would be rough. Maybe feral+spiritstone works out for that.

You never even need to spam Q to clear now, just W every camp and destroy it with flare

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04-12-2014 , 01:04 PM

#225

EADGBE

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how often do you jungle mains get your role? feels like i can only get it if i rand 1st or 2nd pick these days. (3 of last 10, etc) always like 3 guys wanting jungle, and everybody trying to avoid adc like the plague. i bet if id been an adc main i couldve gotten my role in 90%+ of my games so far.

product of noob elo/variance or is this different at higher elo?

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