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Old 12-19-2013, 11:59 AM   #151
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Re: Welcome to the Jungle!

was thinking about this and at low lvls i def think it's +ev to somewhat camp a lane since tilt is a pretty big factor, and ppl dont seem to understand the limitations of being vs a 2-0 when u're a 0-2
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:07 PM   #152
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Yeah it`s really annoying like you just got 2kills on botlane and did a dragon and then at the same time your Toplane dies and flames you for not ganking. The most annoying people are those who ping and request help on a lane that is pushed to the opponent tower.

It`s especially bad because others start jumping on the blametrain as it`s the best way to justify why you lose the game. Even more annoying is that all eyes are on you so when you do a mistake there will be someone watching you instead of playing the game.

Wouldn`t be suprised if I get a warning by the tribunal soon, becasue I unfortunately rage back at them as it`s too annoying.

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Ohh and about tilt I had a lot of games where I got a feeding midlaner who has terrible cs and then expects blue from me. Like it`s most likely -ev to give him blue but the rage and tilt coming from him for not giving it must be considered.

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Old 12-19-2013, 12:37 PM   #153
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was thinking about this and at low lvls i def think it's +ev to somewhat camp a lane since tilt is a pretty big factor, and ppl dont seem to understand the limitations of being vs a 2-0 when u're a 0-2
I take it as a matter of pride when someone complains in all chat about me camping them. In a good way.
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Old 12-19-2013, 07:30 PM   #154
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Haha, yea they just let you know you are bugging them. Not smart on their part.

I had a game the other day that tilted me so hard because of one thing. I think our team had a Jax going against a Nasus top, we were purple side. I discussed with Jax that I'd like to shut Nasus down early, and I'll start Blue-Wraiths-Red then gank Nasus with Lvl 3. I made sure to tell Jax to let Nasus push or to keep lane in middle at the very least (since Nasus shouldn't push unless he is dumb).

Of course I'm on my way top after Red and notice Jax has been harassing Nasus and pushing his lane to optimal farm/freeze location for Nasus. The guy just wasted my entire first 3 minutes. We ended up getting behind because their jungler started blue and ganked bot, with me far away, thumb stuck in my butt.

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Old 12-19-2013, 07:34 PM   #155
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whenever ppl repeatedly beat up on me i mostly get amused and just type STOP or sth midly amusing in all chat followed by some smiley face
thats gotta be the thing that pisses me off least in a game, directly proportional to the level of drooling in my team
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Old 12-19-2013, 11:49 PM   #156
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Re: Welcome to the Jungle!

So should I get Shyvana or Vi for my new jungle champ? Or any other recommendations?

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Old 12-20-2013, 12:34 AM   #157
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I play neither but I say get vi.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:12 AM   #158
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So should I get Shyvana or Vi for my new jungle champ? Or any other recommendations?
Do you like ganking? Pick Vi. Do you like farming? Pick Shyv. Obviously not that simplistic but that is the main differences between those two champs
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:29 AM   #159
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Do you like ganking? Pick Vi. Do you like farming? Pick Shyv. Obviously not that simplistic but that is the main differences between those two champs
Yup
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Old 12-20-2013, 07:36 AM   #160
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Re: Welcome to the Jungle!

The correct question is do you want to punch ppl or do you want to jump on them as a ****ing dragon?
i feel shyv has to be better lower due to her tankiness and the fact that ppl will likely swarm around her and stand in her aoe while she tanks them
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Old 12-20-2013, 10:25 AM   #161
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I haven`t seen a good vi-player in low elo. I`m terrible myself with her. Shyvana is much easier to play imo.
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:25 AM   #162
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<3 Vi
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:30 AM   #163
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I haven`t seen a good vi-player in low elo. I`m terrible myself with her. Shyvana is much easier to play imo.
That's because vi's so easy if you can farm to 6 and ult the midlaner you'll get to gold pretty fast.
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Old 12-20-2013, 07:42 PM   #164
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Picked up vi and I'm really liking her a lot. The q thru stuff like trees into e is so sick. I just gotta start building better item sets. Also fwiw I'm lvl 17. So I've got time to practice her.

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Old 12-20-2013, 08:27 PM   #165
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With Vi I never know if I should build offense (lizard/triforce) or defense (golem into rand/MR item)
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Old 12-20-2013, 08:29 PM   #166
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Golem boots brutalizer into tank (BC a snowballing option) is my favorite. If things don't go well early abandon the plan for brut and go tank/CDR.
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Old 12-29-2013, 07:01 PM   #167
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oddone on a 5-0 streak as maokai jungle. all while sitting at 99LP.
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Old 12-29-2013, 09:32 PM   #168
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Yeah I watched his 6 win, it looked like he was going to lose his 7th though. Pretty fun stuff. I remember a whillleee ago when there was the "pro's favorite champion" spotlight and it was about Oddone and maokai.
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Old 02-11-2014, 02:54 AM   #169
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Re: Welcome to the Jungle!

bump

what are people doing in the jungle these days. I'm so bad at it
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:14 AM   #170
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Re: Welcome to the Jungle!

I play it pretty rarely, but I've been going Amumu or Malphite if we need a tanky Jungler (Malphite is very strong at low ELO), and usually Master Yi if we need a jungler with more offense. I should start using Wukong more for an offensive jungler though.

Bruiser Master Yi is pretty powerful actually in low level play as well. Very quick wave clear, I don't bother with a jungling item.

I usually go Boots and Bilgewater as first purchase (Bilge active helps a lot with ganks), then build Ninja Tabi, Hexdrinker (gives you a lot of sustain against bursty AP champs) and Randuins (unless their mid is fed). Randuins + Meditate can tank a ton of damage in mid-game.
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:17 AM   #171
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Re: Welcome to the Jungle!

Malphite is probably not even top 20 jungle.


Top 5

Elise,Lee,Vi,Wukong,Khazix

Wu is the easiest of these and you can just stomp lowelo games.
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:53 AM   #172
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amumu and wukong appear to have the highest win rates in low elo, according to Lolking.net
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:30 AM   #173
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The answer, as with poker, is: it depends. It depends on what you're good at, what you like to play and, not least of all, what the team comps are.

At low elo for instance people rarely choose tanks/go tanky, so I like going shyvanna a lot because I can be that tank for my team and even if I don't get many kills, my KDA is still good and the power of my zoning can be huge in teamfights so its not even about the KDA.

However, if we're going against someone like kata I'll usually default to something like WW where I can be sure that I'm the competent guy who saves his ult for when she goes in so we can blow her up quick and avoid the snowballing.

If we've got say a renekton and a leona and they're going a non-tanky comp or just garen top as a tank or sth, I'd like a kha zix to abuse their squishyness for the resets.
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:06 PM   #174
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Mumu is probably what I've played most of and am just OK. But in general my ganking is really bad with any champ.

I may force a flash but pretty rarely do I impact the game via gsnking and I know its a big leak. If my enemy jungler doesn't gank then I can just focus on free farming but if he does and I can't keep up at least a bit, my team usually gets demolished.

Best tips for ganking? General, not champ dependent
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Old 02-11-2014, 01:07 PM   #175
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Like mainly when should I start looking to gank. As jax once I hit three I'll try looking for something but should I do so before a buy or after? That kind of stuff. Simple but I'm bad.
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