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Jax does hybrid dam and Zed is a caster so thornmail is good but basically same as sunfire that shen would have built

I mean its going to be a problem very late after he gets the 3rd item, thorn sunfire randuins is going to be a bad time

I quit playing eve after so many squishy tops she gets tanky for a high dam dealer but its still squishy relative to shen renekton types and no tank is no fun

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08-03-2013 , 04:00 PM

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Scary_Tiger

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Buy Shaco. Seriously.

Somehow ended up versus a Shaco back to back games. So completely hopeless as a solo queue jungler. I spend two wards on my red side and neither mid or top came while he was doing my red. :\

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08-03-2013 , 07:22 PM

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Karak

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I only play noct or yi if my top is tanky (and if I'm tilting)

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08-03-2013 , 10:56 PM

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smokesx

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Shaco is a lowelo monster.

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08-04-2013 , 02:13 AM

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bottomset

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I only play noct or yi if my top is tanky (and if I'm tilting)

The AD Spirit stone item(can't remember name offhand) into full tank is ok on Noct

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08-04-2013 , 05:44 AM

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Pretty much every jungler should be getting Spirit of the Ancient Golem first. Perfect itemization, builds well in pieces, and is cheap.

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08-04-2013 , 04:38 PM

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08-13-2013 , 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by waffle

I need some junglers to play that aren't LCS copy-cat tier. I've only been playing J4, Nasus and Zac lately.

Pickup fiddlesticks and surprise party fiddlesticks.

Runes: mpen reds, flat ap everywhere else. 7.8mpn +31ap

Start Dorans ring+2 manapots.

Just clear blue>wolf>wraith>red>golem=lvl4 >look for lanes.
You can go blue>red or reverse and then go find a lane but drain rank 1 isnt much damage and it means going WEQ instead of WEWQ.

Fiddles a beast in the right hands and pretty much is why I'm in plat.

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08-13-2013 , 08:38 AM

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Jackitos

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The key is the skin though.

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08-13-2013 , 08:41 AM

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dlorc

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Obviously, if you don't have the skin you shouldn't even think about it.

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08-13-2013 , 03:27 PM

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Karak

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I've actually been trying (and failing) to learn fiddle jungle. Make some videos! All the updated fiddle jungle videos suck.

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08-13-2013 , 03:30 PM

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Jackitos

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Fiddle jungle is pretty straight forward. Rush your red/blue, sneak into lane. Wait until guy isn't expecting you there because you sat in brush for 2 minutes leeching experience. Gank him. Repeat until you ding 6. When you hit 6 just ult over a wall anytime that it's up.

This is what every fiddle at my elo does. He never ****ing jungles.

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08-13-2013 , 03:35 PM

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Karak

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I'm looking for tips from higher than Bronze IV tho

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08-13-2013 , 03:49 PM

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Jackitos

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I'm pretty sure that I'm higher than you.

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08-15-2013 , 12:45 AM

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jonrichman

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I tried this many times and it works like a charm.

Get doran's blade hard leash at blue then go straight to smite the opposite team's big golem.

Then camp in their red, kill the jungler when hes almost finished with the lizard, double buff!

give your red to your adc or something.

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08-18-2013 , 01:39 PM

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I've actually been trying (and failing) to learn fiddle jungle. Make some videos! All the updated fiddle jungle videos suck.

Buy spookyghosts.

Acquire ELO.

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08-18-2013 , 02:14 PM

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After this you should usually take your red buff for yourself anyways. Your adc won't want to miss xp/farm leaving the lane, and having a buff can make him a gank magnet. Ward it if you want to hold it for a while and get near Max red buff time. With triple buffs and a kill you can gank/camp lanes freely without worry of a countergank.

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08-18-2013 , 02:57 PM

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I think his name was perfects he played shaco/fiddle jungle I believe diamond 1 EU

seems to do pretty well with Fiddle

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08-18-2013 , 03:06 PM

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Thamel18

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Azingy is pretty good fiddle jungle iirc

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08-19-2013 , 12:19 AM

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I think his name was perfects he played shaco/fiddle jungle I believe diamond 1 EU

seems to do pretty well with Fiddle

Here's a clip from a game from Perfects smurf I ran into while watching random youtube vids the other day:

Title is a little misleading: the video is 8 minutes. it's not the game coming to an end in 8 minutes. Dude absolutely stomps in this vid.

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08-29-2013 , 11:02 PM

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Should I always be getting a Rylai's along with Liandry's on Eve? Of course, not "always" but do they harmonize together well enough to be pushing to get both most games?

Also, not like I wouldn't hit the enemies with my Q after ulting them, but for knowledge's sake, does the Liandry's 2x damage proc on the ult hit where they become slowed on the same hit, or do I need to hit them "While they're already slowed" to have the DoT do double damage?

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10-18-2013 , 02:44 AM

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Jungle Udyr:

Tiger for early ganks and straight up carrying?

Phoenix for "game mind" and split pushing objectives etc?

I bought him months ago and still haven't even played him.

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10-19-2013 , 02:33 AM

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CrazyDiam0nd

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anyone here play skarner jungle ? OP imo. I just got into jungling with skarner and shaco, find it hard with shaco cause if early game goes bad then he is just screwed, Skarner is good for early ganks and a late game beast.

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10-19-2013 , 02:57 AM

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Somehow ended up versus a Shaco back to back games. So completely hopeless as a solo queue jungler. I spend two wards on my red side and neither mid or top came while he was doing my red. :\

when you see a stronger jungler than you always start red first

if you don't main jungle starting red elimnates most of your problems until you start facing a really good jungler,

cliffs: start red win game

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10-19-2013 , 02:58 AM

#75

litlebullet

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used to play skarner jungle back in early season 3 and late season 2 before I realized I was an awful jungler. I find he isn't that great of a ganker pre 6 no hard cc but he does pretty good with red buff

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