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07-25-2013 , 05:52 AM

#26

Gerv

Formerly Giantian

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,325

Maybe this thread should be renamed to Jungle:Udyr discussion

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07-25-2013 , 08:08 AM

#27

Jackitos

srs biz

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 17,561

I told you, should have made an udyr containment thread. That trash just seeps everywhere

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07-25-2013 , 08:41 AM

#28

fnx99

G2p2 HU Champion

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,259

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Originally Posted by Thamel18

How do you guys build lee sin in jungle? I generally go full tank, like golem into sightstone w/ aegis and tabi after. In general I feel he is so glassy without a tank build unless you get fed.

21/9/0 ad red and quints, amor yellow, mr blue

then i rush spirit lizard and then go for tank wiht aegis bulwark randuins or something.

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07-25-2013 , 09:54 AM

#29

Gerv

Formerly Giantian

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,325

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Originally Posted by fnx99

21/9/0 ad red and quints, amor yellow, mr blue

then i rush spirit lizard and then go for tank wiht aegis bulwark randuins or something.

A mix of ARpen and AD gives one a bit more dmg when ppl start getting armor but generally I go either that or (when im superbehind) razors/sighstone and tankiness. Sightstone for vision control, not necessarily jumping

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07-25-2013 , 10:30 AM

#30

Nonfiction

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Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 12,498

I wish i had more jungle fiddlesticks on my team, such a ridic underrated champ for solo q. Last game other team had a nunu who relentless counterjungled but it didn't matter cause we had orianna mid, korean gp top, fiddles jungle so AOE gged them to death.

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07-26-2013 , 11:08 PM

#31

ImsaKidd

CHOO CHOO

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 20,758

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Originally Posted by Nonfiction

The problem with fiddle is he doesn't satisfy the "standard" jungler role on the team. He is very squishy, so you're more dependent on team comp.

He is also not very resilient to invades, which can get you screwed in solo queue.

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07-26-2013 , 11:35 PM

#32

ALLTheCookies

half a brain

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 23,373

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Originally Posted by Nonfiction

what's korean gp?

anyone have suggestions for eve runes? i was thinking ad reds, armor yellow, mr/18 blue, ap quint.

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07-26-2013 , 11:56 PM

#33

bottomset

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Originally Posted by ALLTheCookies

what's korean gp?

anyone have suggestions for eve runes? i was thinking ad reds, armor yellow, mr/18 blue, ap quint.

Max w build shiv/wits end live off passive/on hit magic dam

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07-26-2013 , 11:58 PM

#34

waffle

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,728

Korean GP Guide: http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=...nk-build-guide

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07-27-2013 , 01:49 PM

#35

smokesx

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 674

Nasus: Should I be trying to get the Q on dragon/baron or is that too risky? Should I just be smiting? Or is this situational depending on the pressure? Just trying to figure out if its standard to end these with a Q

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07-27-2013 , 01:54 PM

#36

Thamel18

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Is 6 more Q damage worth risking 1k/2k team gold & a team buff worth ~8K or more to the team (Baron)? Not to mention the EXP differential you would lose. If there's any risk of an opponent taking it, you should always smite. If you can't smite (IE, doing dragon late with the risk of baron by your opponents), then doing the objective is risky. Always smite, it's too risky not to.

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07-27-2013 , 01:54 PM

#37

Slighted

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 16,756

karma jungle in lcs eu right now.. if u arent already watching it.

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07-27-2013 , 07:51 PM

#38

ImsaKidd

CHOO CHOO

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 20,758

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Originally Posted by smokesx

You should 110% be smiting these. The ideal combo is have drag/baron at 1k hp, you Q it for 250 damage, then smite down the remaining 750.

Blue/Red its probably OK to get the last hit for Q stacks. Dragon or (especially) baron is way too important to risk for 6 extra Q damage.

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07-27-2013 , 07:55 PM

#39

ImsaKidd

CHOO CHOO

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 20,758

Just had a surprising first in a ranked game:

Was jungle nasus, team was way ahead. We take mid inhib and baron, enemy khazix has a level on me (more smite damage), he jumps in and smite steals it.

Nobody commented a single word. Pretty sure that has never happened to me before, but it was pretty nice! We won anyway, but still annoying to mess that up.

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07-27-2013 , 08:04 PM

#40

smokesx

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 674

Yeah I know the feeling. I feel junglers take a lot of flack in solo queue. Its just too easy/common for lanes to blame the jungle for all their failure.

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07-29-2013 , 02:31 AM

#41

fnx99

G2p2 HU Champion

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 5,259

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Originally Posted by Slighted

karma jungle in lcs eu right now.. if u arent already watching it.

http://www.competitiveleague.com/dia...-here-to-stay/

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08-03-2013 , 12:04 PM

#42

Thamel18

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Nothing bugs me more than when I let a later pick in champ select jungle, and they seem to give zero ****s about team comp. Example: our only hard CC are Elise/TF and our support won't be tanky. Jungle picks the new Yi and then feeds to boot. He just wanted to play an OMG op champion

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08-03-2013 , 12:44 PM

#43

Scary_Tiger

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Originally Posted by Thamel18

Yeah, had a Jax top and jungle Yi, so mid takes... Zed. Shen top has a thornmail at like five minutes.

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08-03-2013 , 12:59 PM

#44

waffle

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3,728

I need some junglers to play that aren't LCS copy-cat tier. I've only been playing J4, Nasus and Zac lately.

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08-03-2013 , 01:15 PM

#45

Thamel18

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Lee Sin is probably a copycat. He is very challenging to play well but fun. Vi is a jungle that has powerful clearing in the mid game but can be fragile. She also has some of the best base damage of junglers with her abilities which all scale with AD. Rammus is a tank that can feel unkillable post lvl 13 with good aoe DOT, but can be invaded counter jungled easily

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08-03-2013 , 01:55 PM

#46

Karak

ELIte

Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 62,726

I've noticed Rammus has a consistently high winrate in solo queue.

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08-03-2013 , 02:02 PM

#47

Thamel18

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Rammus is a GOAT pub stomper for sure. Especially if you pick him late against teams without knockback

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08-03-2013 , 02:10 PM

#48

smokesx

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 674

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Originally Posted by waffle

I need some junglers to play that aren't LCS copy-cat tier. I've only been playing J4, Nasus and Zac lately.

Buy Shaco. Seriously.

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08-03-2013 , 02:16 PM

#49

smokesx

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 674

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Originally Posted by Karak

I've noticed Rammus has a consistently high winrate in solo queue.

I ****ing love rammus but I actually don't play w/ him in soloqueue much. His ganks are amazing but more often than not the lanes just don't know how to follow up/mesh with rammus ganks and I'm just kind of useless. I'll usually opt for someone with more kill potential like nasus or elise. Granted, if I wasn't in silver 5 I probably wouldn't have that problem, so maybe when I climb elo I'll have a better time.