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Old 07-25-2013, 05:52 AM   #26
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Re: Welcome to the Jungle!

Maybe this thread should be renamed to Jungle:Udyr discussion
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:08 AM   #27
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I told you, should have made an udyr containment thread. That trash just seeps everywhere
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:41 AM   #28
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How do you guys build lee sin in jungle? I generally go full tank, like golem into sightstone w/ aegis and tabi after. In general I feel he is so glassy without a tank build unless you get fed.
21/9/0 ad red and quints, amor yellow, mr blue


then i rush spirit lizard and then go for tank wiht aegis bulwark randuins or something.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:54 AM   #29
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21/9/0 ad red and quints, amor yellow, mr blue


then i rush spirit lizard and then go for tank wiht aegis bulwark randuins or something.
A mix of ARpen and AD gives one a bit more dmg when ppl start getting armor but generally I go either that or (when im superbehind) razors/sighstone and tankiness. Sightstone for vision control, not necessarily jumping
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:30 AM   #30
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I wish i had more jungle fiddlesticks on my team, such a ridic underrated champ for solo q. Last game other team had a nunu who relentless counterjungled but it didn't matter cause we had orianna mid, korean gp top, fiddles jungle so AOE gged them to death.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:08 PM   #31
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I wish i had more jungle fiddlesticks on my team, such a ridic underrated champ for solo q. Last game other team had a nunu who relentless counterjungled but it didn't matter cause we had orianna mid, korean gp top, fiddles jungle so AOE gged them to death.
The problem with fiddle is he doesn't satisfy the "standard" jungler role on the team. He is very squishy, so you're more dependent on team comp.

He is also not very resilient to invades, which can get you screwed in solo queue.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:35 PM   #32
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I wish i had more jungle fiddlesticks on my team, such a ridic underrated champ for solo q. Last game other team had a nunu who relentless counterjungled but it didn't matter cause we had orianna mid, korean gp top, fiddles jungle so AOE gged them to death.
what's korean gp?


anyone have suggestions for eve runes? i was thinking ad reds, armor yellow, mr/18 blue, ap quint.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:56 PM   #33
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what's korean gp?


anyone have suggestions for eve runes? i was thinking ad reds, armor yellow, mr/18 blue, ap quint.
Max w build shiv/wits end live off passive/on hit magic dam
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:58 PM   #34
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Korean GP Guide: http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=...nk-build-guide
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:49 PM   #35
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Nasus: Should I be trying to get the Q on dragon/baron or is that too risky? Should I just be smiting? Or is this situational depending on the pressure? Just trying to figure out if its standard to end these with a Q
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:54 PM   #36
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Is 6 more Q damage worth risking 1k/2k team gold & a team buff worth ~8K or more to the team (Baron)? Not to mention the EXP differential you would lose. If there's any risk of an opponent taking it, you should always smite. If you can't smite (IE, doing dragon late with the risk of baron by your opponents), then doing the objective is risky. Always smite, it's too risky not to.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:54 PM   #37
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karma jungle in lcs eu right now.. if u arent already watching it.
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Old 07-27-2013, 07:51 PM   #38
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Nasus: Should I be trying to get the Q on dragon/baron or is that too risky? Should I just be smiting? Or is this situational depending on the pressure? Just trying to figure out if its standard to end these with a Q
You should 110% be smiting these. The ideal combo is have drag/baron at 1k hp, you Q it for 250 damage, then smite down the remaining 750.

Blue/Red its probably OK to get the last hit for Q stacks. Dragon or (especially) baron is way too important to risk for 6 extra Q damage.
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Old 07-27-2013, 07:55 PM   #39
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Re: Welcome to the Jungle!

Just had a surprising first in a ranked game:

Was jungle nasus, team was way ahead. We take mid inhib and baron, enemy khazix has a level on me (more smite damage), he jumps in and smite steals it.

Nobody commented a single word. Pretty sure that has never happened to me before, but it was pretty nice! We won anyway, but still annoying to mess that up.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:04 PM   #40
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Yeah I know the feeling. I feel junglers take a lot of flack in solo queue. Its just too easy/common for lanes to blame the jungle for all their failure.
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Old 07-29-2013, 02:31 AM   #41
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karma jungle in lcs eu right now.. if u arent already watching it.
http://www.competitiveleague.com/dia...-here-to-stay/
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Old 08-03-2013, 12:04 PM   #42
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Nothing bugs me more than when I let a later pick in champ select jungle, and they seem to give zero ****s about team comp. Example: our only hard CC are Elise/TF and our support won't be tanky. Jungle picks the new Yi and then feeds to boot. He just wanted to play an OMG op champion
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Old 08-03-2013, 12:44 PM   #43
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Nothing bugs me more than when I let a later pick in champ select jungle, and they seem to give zero ****s about team comp. Example: our only hard CC are Elise/TF and our support won't be tanky. Jungle picks the new Yi and then feeds to boot. He just wanted to play an OMG op champion
Yeah, had a Jax top and jungle Yi, so mid takes... Zed. Shen top has a thornmail at like five minutes.
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Old 08-03-2013, 12:59 PM   #44
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I need some junglers to play that aren't LCS copy-cat tier. I've only been playing J4, Nasus and Zac lately.
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Old 08-03-2013, 01:15 PM   #45
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Lee Sin is probably a copycat. He is very challenging to play well but fun. Vi is a jungle that has powerful clearing in the mid game but can be fragile. She also has some of the best base damage of junglers with her abilities which all scale with AD. Rammus is a tank that can feel unkillable post lvl 13 with good aoe DOT, but can be invaded counter jungled easily
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Old 08-03-2013, 01:55 PM   #46
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I've noticed Rammus has a consistently high winrate in solo queue.
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:02 PM   #47
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Rammus is a GOAT pub stomper for sure. Especially if you pick him late against teams without knockback
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:10 PM   #48
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I need some junglers to play that aren't LCS copy-cat tier. I've only been playing J4, Nasus and Zac lately.
Buy Shaco. Seriously.
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:16 PM   #49
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I've noticed Rammus has a consistently high winrate in solo queue.
I ****ing love rammus but I actually don't play w/ him in soloqueue much. His ganks are amazing but more often than not the lanes just don't know how to follow up/mesh with rammus ganks and I'm just kind of useless. I'll usually opt for someone with more kill potential like nasus or elise. Granted, if I wasn't in silver 5 I probably wouldn't have that problem, so maybe when I climb elo I'll have a better time.
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:18 PM   #50
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I think Rammus has a top 10 win rate in solo queue -- like 53%ish.
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