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10-22-2013 , 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NiSash1337
The biggest problem I personally see with Noob-Junglers is that they try to force something to happen. They just want to kill someone or make a cool move but in the end nothing happens and suddenly they are 3 lvls behind and useless. Dunno how long a gank in avg. but if it fails you wasted that time and could`ve farmed or something.

So my decision if I gank or not usually is a combination of skill of the players in lane(Both opponent and ally, I usually look at CS,Deaths etc.), the champions(An allied champion that can stun is always great. And if the opponent Champion has some ability to get away fast, someone like Ashe for example doesnt).

But im not even playing ranked so what do I know
I actually don't think bad ganks are that big a mistake at lower levels most because your opponents are wasting way more time at lower levels. Going 3/5 on ganks is better than say 2/2 IMO. You really shouldn't be farming that much in Bronze because you can farm champions because they will make huge mistakes. Don't get me wrong planning out your ganks is great but what if your planned gank shoved their lane? I'm perfectly happy to camp a top lane Renektron if my mid/bot lane are shoved and warded.

I think the three biggest mistakes in Bronze jungle are:
-Not building damage and playing damage champions (and not taking lane farm to achieve this)
-Not having early mid/late objectives correctly prioritized
-Not calling plays for your team ("BACK OFF", "dragon now", "shove and take tower")

Any kind of early snowball can and will be thrown in Bronze. I can't count how many times I started 6-0 on ganks as the jungler before 15:00 and every lane was behind because of poor farming. This is very important because it means you must focus on getting towers over everything else (including dragon).

The best early game plan is honestly just get bot lane snowballing if it's available because:
-Most gold available to you from kills (and ADC is always squishy)
-Easy dragon once tower is down

Mid game you want to get all tier one towers down because late game you will need to run picks to win (sieging towers with a Bronze team is a recipe for getting aced no matter how fed). Top and bot are much more important than mid lane (to free up roams which makes taking mid easier). You achieve this two ways:

-Rarely ever farm away from your team if you couldn't quickly run to an engage
-Having tons of wards up (if you're ahead in their jungler, if somehow behind in yours)

Late game is 100% about getting inhibitors, baron should probably be avoided because Bronze teams are so uncordinated. Accomplish this by having vision in their jungle, keeping your team close together and buying oracles. Focus on keeping the lane you need to take shoved and then getting a kill or two to safely take the tower.

Last edited by cwar; 10-22-2013 at 09:03 AM.
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10-22-2013 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Illiterate
Probably getting banned. Ragequit two of my last three games.

Yes I know I'm playing bad. Yelling it at me over and over accomplishes nothing. Like I'm trying to lose.
/mute all
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10-22-2013 , 01:27 PM
Some cool tipps thanks cwar. Def gonna start calling more plays, the problem is that people rarely come to help do a Dragon when there is a window. They just don`t realize how good it is for the Team. Haven`t tried to solo Dragon as Lee Sin on lowlevel for a while now(I usually play Lee Sin jungle, really like him), though the last time I tried(and failed) I was missing a lot of Runes/Masteries(Only had attackspeed runes ...) -

Last edited by NiSash1337; 10-22-2013 at 01:33 PM.
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10-22-2013 , 01:45 PM
who wants a level 30 account? It's oceania but u can change server in the shop by clicking on other and also u can change the name, have to pay but.
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10-22-2013 , 01:50 PM
first in gets it i'll pm the username and password. Theres about 20 champs, mostly cheap ones, and 2 skins.
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10-22-2013 , 02:05 PM
ok it's taken
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10-22-2013 , 02:05 PM
Just got promoted from gold 5 to gold 3

nasus OP
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10-22-2013 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NiSash1337
Some cool tipps thanks cwar. Def gonna start calling more plays, the problem is that people rarely come to help do a Dragon when there is a window. They just don`t realize how good it is for the Team. Haven`t tried to solo Dragon as Lee Sin on lowlevel for a while now(I usually play Lee Sin jungle, really like him), though the last time I tried(and failed) I was missing a lot of Runes/Masteries(Only had attackspeed runes ...) -
I would just build in slow reaction times into my play calls, avoid trying to sneak a dragon/baron in Bronze because it will never happen quickly.

Dragon calls are interesting, very risky if it's early because Bronze players won't peel if caught. Generally the way you would get it done is ganking bot lane and shoving the lane (or taking the tower). Once the lane is shoved it's relatively easier to convince ADC/supp to come as they having nothing to do.

Solo'ing dragon on a timer is an excellent pre-30 strategy to win like 90% of your games.
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10-22-2013 , 02:50 PM
I would think nasus would be an great pre-30 jungler. Can solo dragon at level 6, great at shoving waves and taking towers, and has carry potential if the game drags on as a lot of pre-30 games tend to do.
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10-22-2013 , 02:57 PM
Agreed, probably the ideal pre-30 jungler actually with his E for shoving lanes and Q for blowing up towers.
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10-22-2013 , 03:06 PM
playing kass, had a 5vs5 brawl lvl 1 came out of it 3/0/1

gg lol
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10-22-2013 , 03:13 PM
I don't think jungle is best for pre 30 games, if you are really that much better I'd play top lane. Kill your laner, kill the jungler+laner 2vs1 when he comes, push to their inhib
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10-22-2013 , 03:28 PM
When I played pre 30, if I didnt jungle for my team, usually no one did.

Was a long time ago tho.
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10-22-2013 , 03:32 PM
then just play middle, middle is hard to 1vs2 but still possible
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10-22-2013 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Nonfiction
I would think nasus would be an great pre-30 jungler. Can solo dragon at level 6, great at shoving waves and taking towers, and has carry potential if the game drags on as a lot of pre-30 games tend to do.
nasus is very strong in the silver and lower games, even better in pre-30

you get free dragon at 7mins, and often get the 2nd free as well. his ganks are pretty meh but he pushes objectives so well with his wave clear, you don't need kills if you can at least push them out of lane
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10-22-2013 , 04:25 PM
I routinely get free dragons with nasus in gold. Tell bot and mid to push and not leave their lanes. Buy a pink. No one ever expects it.
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10-22-2013 , 04:44 PM
some nasus just tried that in the last game I played, our lee killed him and got dragon
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10-22-2013 , 05:09 PM
lololol just had a moment where I literally laughed my ass off and didn`t play for a minute.

I was playing Lee Sin and got running quite good, I see a HUGE wave on Top so I sprint to it to clear it and the opponent Jax was there too who was quite nooby. I wasn`t sure if I actually could take him 1on1 so didn`t wanna risk to miss this huge wave and just kicked him over the wall with my ulti to clear the wave.
Anyways he just FLASHES back over the wall while I was on full health and I was just thinking "OHH BOY HE MAD", he charges at me and I just easy peasy take him out 1on1 which was hilarious.
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10-22-2013 , 05:52 PM
first pick starts champ select off with "whoever is adc you better not be garbage"

ill give you 1 guess who went jungle, counter jungled a lee sin and ignored all my MIA pings, feeding my laner a kill + double buffs

1

****ing

guess
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10-22-2013 , 06:23 PM
won a 4vs5, vi dc's whole game, comes back when we're taking their 2nd inhib and collects free win lol

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10-22-2013 , 06:34 PM
excellent troll by her too

"ty. i earned it."
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10-22-2013 , 06:36 PM
A friend of mine who works in the House told me there's some asian guy who sits in the cafeteria of Rayburn (one of the House office buildings) all day long every day playing League of Legends on his laptop... he said he is there anytime he enters the cafeteria. Doesn't appear to have an ID badge or work for any office, just steals wifi from Congress to grind League.

Gotta say I approve. I might go try to sneak a pic. My buddy doesn't have a camera phone, unfortunately.
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10-22-2013 , 06:42 PM
'Murica
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10-22-2013 , 07:01 PM
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excellent troll by her too

"ty. i earned it."
new way to troll promos, dc like that everytime you are in win and move up and let the 4v5 carry you
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10-22-2013 , 07:16 PM
figured out vlad is a hard counter to gragas's mid, its just so easy, I've lvl 6 dove 3 gragas's in a row
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