Yeah that rageblade game was a lost cause and we had an afk so I just screwed around with some other items. The team was in disarray so I just pitched it.

I was forced into jungle and I don't know anything about jungle items so I just asked the team what to build as a jungler and they said sated devourer.

My summoners are fine I think. I have a master level buddy who told me that exhaust in lane isn't as good as it used to be with the support meta changing. Now if you have a compelling argument otherwise then I am glad to hear it.

literally more dmg than entire enemy team. karak on xin with nothing

if it was better you would be winning

I think you may be overestimating your calls. I can agree that there are times when you can do baron and your team thinks they are too low, or just don't respond, but more often I see people trying to force baron when it's clearly not safe and they could be getting some other objective with zero risk.

Also, I'm not saying you're this guy, but very often, the guy that clearly doesn't know what he's talking about is always barking orders in chat. "omg guys all mid". That's my fav when we have zero chance of teamfighting and the enemy has a decent poke comp, all while our two side lanes have 1500g of farm pushing into turrets in the next 30 seconds. Like, we can just have 4 hold mid while someone runs to the side lane to clear it out real fast. Instead, the "all mid" guy starts raging "omg this xxxxx is never with us" and starts an engage.


There are tons of people out there that think they know, but they have no idea (lol MTV Diary anyone?). Like I said, your calls may very well be smart and good, but if the call really is good, it'll be mostly obvious and people will listen. Low elo games aren't won solely on sneaking a baron with 4 seconds to spare. They're won by applying pressure and taking objectives in a smart and safe way while avoiding bad engages.

I think low elo once you're a fed carry (zed for example) you can just solo carry because you can literally do the arch-nemesis for low elo and get away with it -> splitpushing

People respond so poorly to splitpushing and under-estimate what a good player can do

When I'm fed I have no problem 1v2 their feeding players and win and still get that objective. Usually people won't respond and you can free push a tower or kill the guy defending 1v1.

Of course you have to have a semi-smart team at least to not go in 4v5 or if you don't have a semi-smart team don't splitpush.

I've seen plenty of diamond players splitpush their way to victory with a splitpush champ in low elo

ps: decision making is much more than calling baron or objectives like that

Well I am winning. Last I checked my winrate was about 51%, so what I do isn't completely ineffective. I honestly just wish I could play mechanically difficult champions and carry.

Just had a poppy who made a bad decision which cost us dearly (we still won).

Now I don't want to blame her, but enemy team was taking baron and we couldn't fight them. Poppy ulted over the baron pit and delayed their baron, the enemy still got baron.

What she should've done is walk around the baron pit while charging her ult then ulting as many people away and steal baron. This isn't mechanics, this is pure decision making.

Now it may seem harmless but if the enemy gets baron + 3 kills cause a fight broke out + some towers, then you just gave the enemy team a massive baron powerplay and potentially the game.

Mechanics aren't everything, nor is decision making, but you need both to succeed in this game. At lower elo one of the two will work, or a bit of both, but you can always make a better play. Being smart in your calls definitely helps, and maybe we didn't lose the game due to that, but it did have a huge influence (relative easy game to pretty difficult).

May seem like it was a hopeless situation, but as I said before, you can always do better.

Note: this was purely an example. In no way did I mean to thrash talk that poppy, who played quite good the rest of the game.

You are just looking way too hard for excuses and why you suck, you are just bad. If you don't understand that you are bad and think to yourself that what you do is actually ok you will never get better.

Here that guy :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOWwElxuwDI

is better than you at LoL

first time playing against an illaoi, i'm really surprised how much damage she's allowed to do to you through your shadow!

It's hard to allin Illaoi, you have to grind him down. He runs oom relatively quickly. Ranged matchups are super easy though.

No I get that I am bad. I'm just tired of trying to figure out how to get better and failing at it. I've watched videos, read guides, practiced CSing, gotten coaches, etc etc and I just don't improve any more than marginally.

Trust me, I don't need you to tell me that I am not good. I am aware. You also have to keep in mind that your skills are ingrained in your head. You have the good habits necessary to win. Maybe explaining what kinds of things that are going through your head actively as you play would help. I genuinely believe that my problems come from a series of bad habits that I ingrained in my head when i was learning that no one else saw to or bothered to correct.

When I was REALLY bad as in like not even level 30 bad I played with friends who were much better than me. They never really told me what I was doing wrong, they just said 'Zach stop being so bad', and I never even knew what to change. I guess I kind of just came up with little ways to do things that won every now and then but are probably highly exploitable, and now I don't know what not to do.

the BEST way to improve is to
--> record your games (either to video or through replay service)
--> when you are done playing, review the game you just played
--> look for mistakes you are making and note possible areas of improvement
--> the next time you play, keep that one thing in mind (this game, I am going to do X better, or this game, I am not going to do Y....)

then just iterate.
if you really get stuck, you can bring in someone else to watch/analyze the replay for you.

i'd do this but i mostly play for entertainment.

Well I said it before, you have to think while playing, be it in poker or LoL people tend to autopilot. Again I'm repeating myself, ask yourself questions "What can I do now?", instead of just sitting in lane watching your ADC CS, you could roam,you could setup vision etc.
You have to be selfcritical and not think what you do is correct.

You can post replays here and I can look over them. I mean there is nothing wrong to be bad at a game, I personally enjoy the process of getting better and climbing in a game, rather than just playing. For others it's more of a pain to analyze what they do wrong and they just enjoy playing.

I like getting better as well I just don't know how to do it.

I'm a professional musician, and much of my improvement was under strict guidance of my voice professor in college so I guess I am used to learning by personal instruction. I hired a coach for a few lessons and my rating went from s5 to s1/s2 in a month but I just can't afford to pay for lessons consistently. I feel like if I had a long term coach I would get a lot further. It's easier for me to break concepts down when someone can critique me in real time and let me ask questions in real time. I kind of 'absorb' things better then.

If your current mmr is silver there are probably a lot of diamond (or plat) players who should be willing to coach for free.

Oh look another toxic 2p2'er for no reason.

Thanks scary tiger for being a cry baby when we were barely losing and flaming me despite doing nothing wrong all game then deleting me. You must be a cool dude. I'm sure you'll be able to get to diamond by flaming people 3 divisions below you.

So cool such wow that people flame people they're in 5's with.

Edit- you def had a right to flame since you didn't even deal most damage as ADC and our jungler did more damage than you lol. Try not being a baby douchebag.

I didn't flame you, I told you we couldn't win down two inhibitors and baron 30 minutes in. There's no reason to drag normals out forever.

Oh hey look killer is butthurt.... Again. Shocker

And I hit yes for you. Then why block me?

What would you suggest I've done differently? I did my best to harass cs (as best I could when I'm outmatched), I warded when I could, I did give up first blood as a mistake I realized I made after, I called out timers for everyone. So why block me?

I'm butt hurt that people are toxic to me when all I did was the play the game? Yes I am.


Edit- You spammed surrenders before they even took baron, then we aced them and you hit another ff.


If anyone on here has me as a friend and you wanna be a toxic baby then just delete me. I try to realize the mistakes I make and understand I'm not very good. But that doesn't give you a right to flame people. I'm sure you guys all talk **** to people's faces IRL so it's cool obviously.

can we leave this out of solo q thread and make a killer kill containment thread

I've made two posts so not sure why you're trolling me.

Where should I post this stuff? It says solo q and bbv. Is there a more appropriate channel to vent frustrations about toxic 2p2'ers?

yeah make a "I don't like scary tiger" thread

completely off topic here

Also there are only toxic substances no toxic people

I was sincerely asking where the post should go asking why people act like buttholes. I really wasn't sure where to post it. I think they should be publicly ridiculed for their ridiculous behavior.