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08-08-2013 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by furyshade
One issue is that you can't report players until the end of game. They need to have a 'report troll' option either in champ select or immediately after so that there is at least the possibility of some form of punishment. If Riot had a low-tolerance policy on being unreasonable/trollish in champ select then they might at least be able to temp-ban enough to disincentivize the behavior.
Also, in Tribunal, it only displays the chat log from within the game client. Often the champion select and post game lobby are full of all sorts of bannable offenses, but there's almost no way for them to be punished. Someone would have to screenshot and send it in or something.

But yeah, if they don't remove dodging, there's no way to report people in games that are dodged, I believe a button to do so would certainly be an improvement over the current system as well.
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08-08-2013 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Scary_Tiger
Also, in Tribunal, it only displays the chat log from within the game client. Often the champion select and post game lobby are full of all sorts of bannable offenses, but there's almost no way for them to be punished. Someone would have to screenshot and send it in or something.

But yeah, if they don't remove dodging, there's no way to report people in games that are dodged, I believe a button to do so would certainly be an improvement over the current system as well.
Also an issue I've found (maybe a bigger issue in normal games) is the chat in champ selecting serving messages out of order. If several people call a lane right at the start, the messages appear in different order for different people. Seems like a lot of grief comes from several people thinking they called first.

One thing that would be awesome is a voting system. If 4 players vote that 1 is being a troll then that player should be booted with all the penalties of a dodge and the rest of the team placed back in matchmaking like normal. This makes it so the troll loses MMR, has to wait, and the rest of the team isn't penalized.
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08-08-2013 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by furyshade
Also an issue I've found (maybe a bigger issue in normal games) is the chat in champ selecting serving messages out of order. If several people call a lane right at the start, the messages appear in different order for different people. Seems like a lot of grief comes from several people thinking they called first.

One thing that would be awesome is a voting system. If 4 players vote that 1 is being a troll then that player should be booted with all the penalties of a dodge and the rest of the team placed back in matchmaking like normal. This makes it so the troll loses MMR, has to wait, and the rest of the team isn't penalized.
Voting people off the island is ripe for abuse
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08-08-2013 , 03:10 PM
Sounds ridiculously abusable. Perpetually butthurt people could railroad players who don't pick exactly what the team wants. It also doesn't solve the time problem, it probably adds more time.
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08-08-2013 , 03:22 PM
More of us should que together instead of enduring all this torture. I just played 2 games before work and had a guy leave as soon as it started because jungle didn't take smite and 2nd game guy begged for TF MID TF MID, gets it and proceeds to feed LeBlanc 6-0 start. Aaaaaaand then he quits for 4v5
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08-08-2013 , 03:24 PM
Why is everyone playing Annie lately
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08-08-2013 , 03:31 PM
cause annie is best ap mid in silver and gold. if you wanna gain elo and you are better at mid than most around you annie is the way to go
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08-08-2013 , 03:34 PM
im not going to argue in favor of dodges being enabled anymore since its pretty clear we are just going to disagree


but games today forreal this time
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08-08-2013 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by furyshade
One issue is that you can't report players until the end of game. They need to have a 'report troll' option either in champ select or immediately after so that there is at least the possibility of some form of punishment. If Riot had a low-tolerance policy on being unreasonable/trollish in champ select then they might at least be able to temp-ban enough to disincentivize the behavior.
While I don't know if it helps, I often copy the chat and send emails to support when someone is extremely rude or negative in champ select. So far the support has at least always replied they will look into it. There are just so many obnoxious people...
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08-08-2013 , 04:04 PM
16 points for plat promo! I think I'm like 13/14 for wins.
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08-08-2013 , 04:13 PM
why can't you guys deal with what happens in a game - so strange everyone gets butthurt about people being jerks on the internet
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08-08-2013 , 04:15 PM
the reason you deal so well is because you just troll everyone anyways
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08-08-2013 , 04:23 PM
it's the main reason i hardly play

i'm prob around silver 4 so there is plenty of tardedness in my games, and i only have time for one game each weekday

if that game has a 25-50% chance of being not fun at all due to people trolling, feeding beyond what's reasonable, or just not everybody playing to win in general (and that seems to be the case) i'm just not going to bother anymore

the games were you get 5 players who are trying to work as a team and win are fun, even if you lose them, but if that's not the standard i'd rather use my one hour of relaxing for something more reliably fun (like watching lcs, which i do more often than i play nowadays)

when i was in college and had different priorities/would have time for 30 games a week, i'd prob shrug it off too, but when you only get one game to relax and you're more stressed out after the game than before it gets old real quick
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08-08-2013 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
Voting people off the island is ripe for abuse
I feel like it would be hard to get 4 people to simultaneously be butt hurt towards the same player unless they are legitimately trolling. I can imagine maybe a duo-queue trying to threaten vote out, but they would still need to get the two other players to do it.
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08-08-2013 , 04:46 PM
^my issue now. I have time for one game before work and sometimes one after. I have a 50-50 shot of enjoying the game or hating it (solo que). It doesn't help that I'm level 26 and the grind to 30 is a bitch.

I still enjoy the game. No I'm working on learning counter champs and specific counter items/strats for certain lanes/matchups. Then you realize you have to verbally babysit 2-3 other adults an entire game.
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08-08-2013 , 05:07 PM
I get a real troll game (4v5, intentional feed, support is not viable) maybe 1 out of every 10 games. You can't eliminate all of it but I don't think it's that bad. I also don't count stuff like mid AD, AP Janna, etc troll because honestly win rates in unconventional games are probably 50%. As long as the players are trying to win and actually know how to use the champion I have no issues. That said, it definitely seems like Karak runs really bad with troll games.
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08-08-2013 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Re3el_Pr1de
Then you realize you have to verbally babysit 2-3 other adults an entire game.
Do not make the mistake of assuming they're adults =P I've run into plenty of 14 year olds after friends listing solid players. Of course who knows how old the real problem people are. Probably 27.
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08-08-2013 , 05:12 PM
combined 9/2 to start my last 2 games

(both losses that werent even close due to a 4v5 and a last pick "mid or feed" troll who followed through... tried to dodge but alt+f4'd too late)
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08-08-2013 , 09:27 PM
12/6/12 kass!

Spoiler:
loss


wish i knew how to teamfight
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08-08-2013 , 11:29 PM
Finished my placement matches after 100 wins of normal.
Spoiler:
Silver V


guess it's time to get good
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08-09-2013 , 12:51 AM
I'll be on for a few tonight if anyone wants to que.

RPr3VOLution
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08-09-2013 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
combined 9/2 to start my last 2 games

(both losses that werent even close due to a 4v5 and a last pick "mid or feed" troll who followed through... tried to dodge but alt+f4'd too late)
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Originally Posted by Karak
12/6/12 kass!

Spoiler:
loss


wish i knew how to teamfight
started my next solo queue game 8/2 and finished 12/6/12 just like the kass game

Spoiler:
loss


in the last game some guy thought i was so good he asked why i'd jungle nocturne in a smurf game since that's not a champ i can really carry with

lol
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08-09-2013 , 02:09 AM
next game i started 4/1/5 and ended up as 12/5/23*

Spoiler:
loss

Last edited by Karak; 08-09-2013 at 02:24 AM. Reason: *actually dragged on for a few more minutes, but my team eventually got aced... was a little higher
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08-09-2013 , 02:20 AM
3 straight ranked losses, with most of the deaths coming very late in the game as my entire team is getting aced

here's my KDA

37/19/48

i really dont understand what im supposed to do to help these idiots win?

im at like bronze 2 ELO now. everything is just madness. people get caught everywhere. i cant do everything and be everywhere at once.
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08-09-2013 , 02:36 AM
very next game is a 4v5. im not even ****ing kidding you.

just an amazing game, this league of legends
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