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08-11-2013 , 02:37 AM
bout to first time vlad in a ranked game (at this point why not)

will report back w/ results
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08-11-2013 , 02:38 AM
I wish it wasn't so hard to get mid in solo queue. AP Cho'Gath so much more fun than regular Cho'Gath.

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08-11-2013 , 02:48 AM
Karak is on perma tilt
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08-11-2013 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
bout to first time vlad in a ranked game (at this point why not)

will report back w/ results
lost 10 of my last 11

and 7 straight

did start 2-0 up 40 CS tho. obv every other lane got destroyed, and my lane got camped

Last edited by Karak; 08-11-2013 at 03:14 AM. Reason: .
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08-11-2013 , 03:52 AM
2nd time vlad next game

started 3-0 and had 35 more farm than anyone in the game. team got up 9-4 kills!

Spoiler:
lost 11 of my last 12

and 8 straight
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08-11-2013 , 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by kabyz
silver I \o/

leona jungle too strong. ganks are insane with gapclose + cc, a stun and sunlight for extra damage. teamfight it's ridicilous how short the cooldown on all your cc is with 34% cdr
Runes/Masteries/Build pls
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08-11-2013 , 04:22 AM


SHOTS FIRED
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08-11-2013 , 05:24 AM
currently 14/2/4 in a game

prob a loss

im not even ****ing kidding
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08-11-2013 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Karak
currently 14/2/4 in a game

prob a loss

im not even ****ing kidding
HAHAHA I MANAGED TO LOSE THIS GAME

INCREDIBLE

i won two 1v2s and one 1v3 fight between these 2 games, which feels good

a win would feel better
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08-11-2013 , 06:02 AM
Come play SC2 and you'll remember what winning feels like
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08-11-2013 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by HotzenplOdds
Runes/Masteries/Build pls
idk, i had to use my mumu jungle page

armor red
armor yellow
scaling magic res blue
2 armor quints one health


makes you come out of the jungle with good health, always nice. i've seen attack speed setups, that might be better for clear, idk

i run 9 (cdr, magpen)/12/9 runes


i went

machete + 5
spirit stone -> spectral
spirit visage
sunfire

no idea if that's optimal or not, seemed to have a good mix of tankiness, cdr and damage

q e w, then max w, q, e. r when you can obv

max rank q is a 1.25 sec stun on a 4.62 sec cooldown with 34% cdr, you're super disruptive in teamfights. i just jump on the adc in teamfights and be super annoying. if someone dives with you all the cc makes the kill pretty easy, if nobody follows you're still quite effective

main problem is she has little damage, i'm sure a strong dueler like udyr/lee sin ****s on her in the jungle if your team doesn't help, and you need damage from the other lanes too

but i don't think there's a hero that offers more CC. max rank with 34% cdr is 4.62 sec stun, 5.94 sec snare, 39.6 sec ulti... the amount of stuns/snare you can get off in a teamfight is ridicilous

her ganks are insanely strong, especially if you make good use of your passive. if it's not warded you can just walk up with q, and use your e for after they flash, more often than not you can get off 2 q's in one gank, which is a certain death
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08-11-2013 , 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by kabyz
idk, i had to use my mumu jungle page

armor red
armor yellow
scaling magic res blue
2 armor quints one health


makes you come out of the jungle with good health, always nice. i've seen attack speed setups, that might be better for clear, idk

i run 9 (cdr, magpen)/12/9 runes


i went

machete + 5
spirit stone -> spectral
spirit visage
sunfire

no idea if that's optimal or not, seemed to have a good mix of tankiness, cdr and damage

q e w, then max w, q, e. r when you can obv

max rank q is a 1.25 sec stun on a 4.62 sec cooldown with 34% cdr, you're super disruptive in teamfights. i just jump on the adc in teamfights and be super annoying. if someone dives with you all the cc makes the kill pretty easy, if nobody follows you're still quite effective

main problem is she has little damage, i'm sure a strong dueler like udyr/lee sin ****s on her in the jungle if your team doesn't help, and you need damage from the other lanes too

but i don't think there's a hero that offers more CC. max rank with 34% cdr is 4.62 sec stun, 5.94 sec snare, 39.6 sec ulti... the amount of stuns/snare you can get off in a teamfight is ridicilous

her ganks are insanely strong, especially if you make good use of your passive. if it's not warded you can just walk up with q, and use your e for after they flash, more often than not you can get off 2 q's in one gank, which is a certain death
Thanks!

Def gonna try this in some normals since I usually just support with Leona.

To me it sounds like a really good low ELO solo q jungler
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08-11-2013 , 09:25 AM
i don't know, she might be better at higher elo, your whole kit is utility so if people don't group properly mid/lategame you can't do ****

and i made some mistakes in my mini guide

for jungle you go w/q/e and than r>w>q>e imo

and spirit of spectral should be ancient golem
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08-11-2013 , 09:36 AM
Just feels to me like J4 is a better jungler than Leona in so many ways that, you know, why not play him instead?
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08-11-2013 , 10:20 AM
because i don't have him, and playing rarely played champs is cooler? ^^
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08-11-2013 , 10:22 AM
that being said, i am looking to play more ranked yolo queue, so i think it's best if i learn 1-2 champs for each role? any suggestions for diverse champs?
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08-11-2013 , 10:57 AM
That's pretty much what I did for solo queue. I'd prob suggest a few different champs from what I picked though. My suggestions:

Jungle : J4, Rammus. Both pubstompers with powerful midgames. Rammus post 9 is a taunt locking machine.

Mid : Ryze, Annie. Both short range mages. Ryze becomes a fairly tanky sustained damage machine in the midgame, while Annie is more of an AOE stun+burst type mage.

ADC : Ashe, Cait. Cait has pretty safe/aggressive laning phase, Ashe brings a lot of utility post-6.

Support : Janna, Sona. Lot of people like hard engage in solo Q, at least from my experience. Sona brings it, Janna can prevent it.

Top : Anything tanky with decent CC is pretty good. Shen is banned a lot so I prob wouldn't learn him. Jax is decent. I play kennen mostly myself.
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08-11-2013 , 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Thamel18
Just feels to me like J4 is a better jungler than Leona in so many ways that, you know, why not play him instead?
Leona is a terrible jungler.
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08-11-2013 , 11:12 AM
I was sort of implying that.
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08-11-2013 , 12:31 PM
gold 3 awwww yeeaaa
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08-11-2013 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Thamel18
I was sort of implying that.
I sort of just said it.
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08-11-2013 , 03:19 PM
Gold V duoing with Bronze II, such a waste of time, how much trouble could you get into playing Nami support? While I guess you could constantly try to come at them from behind, from their jungle, with no wards.
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08-11-2013 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Thamel18
That's pretty much what I did for solo queue. I'd prob suggest a few different champs from what I picked though. My suggestions:

Jungle : J4, Rammus. Both pubstompers with powerful midgames. Rammus post 9 is a taunt locking machine.

Mid : Ryze, Annie. Both short range mages. Ryze becomes a fairly tanky sustained damage machine in the midgame, while Annie is more of an AOE stun+burst type mage.

ADC : Ashe, Cait. Cait has pretty safe/aggressive laning phase, Ashe brings a lot of utility post-6.

Support : Janna, Sona. Lot of people like hard engage in solo Q, at least from my experience. Sona brings it, Janna can prevent it.

Top : Anything tanky with decent CC is pretty good. Shen is banned a lot so I prob wouldn't learn him. Jax is decent. I play kennen mostly myself.
thx for suggestions, what would be a good alternative for annie? something that's more diverse maybe (they are both short range mages, for example)

and any other top suggestions? i've never liked jax, kennen seems fun
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08-11-2013 , 09:18 PM
if anyone is curious what a karak ladder session looks like, here's 3 games with raffy ghosting. the last game isnt really worth watching. it was an elo hell troll fest.

the first 2 games are pretty much what happens every game to me (crushing a lane)... except they dont end in losses cause raffy is telling me what to do.

http://www.twitch.tv/karakstarcraft/b/444317193

sorry for the audio, had my speakers on instead of headphones.
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08-11-2013 , 09:25 PM
So basically. You're the reason that you've been losing?

Seriously though.

I was listening in, when raffy was ghosting. A big reason that you were winning from what I could tell is: you didn't have to watch the map much. Raffy was telling you basically where jungle was or if mid roamed up. Etc. A lot of that, you may have never noticed if he whethe weren't watching. Maybe need to work on map awareness more and decision making?
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