I'm currently at gold 3 elo maining mid lane but i keep droppig from gold 2 to 3 because i can't singlehandedly carry a game, can you guys give me some ti^s how to straight up carry a game very easely or just tell me what champ or smth because his is frustrating as hell!

Try playing Trundle in the jungle. After about 1000 games you might be plat.

Play amumu. Build spectral wraith + haunting guise. Collect elo.

EUW - W_impossible

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/euw/29989525

amumu jungle doesn't really work for me. i just want to get platinum. but i don't kn ow how to improve myself i'm not saying i can't improve i just don't know how..

a few things that have helped me-

simply buy more wards. after the early game you should almost always have a pink ward out, regardless of what role you are playing. there are several good spots to put them where they will rarely be killed so they give good vision for a long period of time. greens should be bought as well but pinks especially are absolutely necessary.

be extremely mindful of objectives- especially dragon in the early game if you play anything but top. If their jungler shows top any time after level 6 or so and bot is pushed you should be seriously thinking about taking dragon. The same goes for if you kill an opposing non-top.

pay attention to levels in lane, especially in the early game. levels 2, 3, and 6 are universally very important. if you can get them before you opponent then you have a window where you can be very openly aggressive (especially if, unlike you, they don't pay attention well enough to realize they're a level behind you). likewise if they get one of those levels before you, you have to realize it so you avoid engaging with them at almost any cost until you get evened up in levels.

This is really good advice you gave me but how do i carry a game all by myself (main mid prefer assassins alot). Also when do i split push i never get this when to do it or why to do it...
My in game summoners name is w impossible on the euw server. Could you guys also tell me some things gold elo players do wrong so i can exploit this for winning games more often?thanks for the replies allready guys it helps me alot

The problem with me is that i win my lane very hard like every single game. BUT i can't seem to carry this with me and give the leed i created to my team aswell (long story short i can't carry my team). I need to know how i can carry my team when i'm ahead. can you guys give me some hints on this?

If you consistently win your lane, make sure you're turning that into an early tower / dragons. Don't roam a lot until the laning phase ends if very ahead, you don't want your enemy laner to have a chance to get back up, shove the lanes in, harass/zone, ward + sweep vision and take wraiths/wolves in between waves.

Once laning ends, focus on getting all the t1 towers, dragons and t2s before trying to Baron. Once you do this with a gold lead make sure you sweep vision around Baron then bait fights / take it to achieve your first inhib. Key here is objectives > kills, don't be kill hungry over objectives.

Split pushing dueling type mids is not an excellent strategy in Gold IMO, it requires your team coordinate pressure which isn't likely to happen efficiently, try and leverage your early snowball for towers/dragons or try a more team fight oriented mid (Ori, Ryze, Syndra, Ziggs, maybe Xerath. maybe Lulu).

Use your gold/strength to get the rest of your team gold/strength, ie take objectives and exert map pressure. The idea of getting super fed and 1vs5'ing to hard carry is fun to think about, but in practice it's not really all that realistic to strive for. That's not to say it's impossible to do, but if it were possible for you then you wouldn't have to ask how to do it. So, as cwar suggests, the best way to translate your early lead into wins is to move around the map forcing objectives and get your teammates ahead as well.

how about ahri her high mobility and low cv makes up for a good mid no?

She's not a straight up team fighting mid like I was listing (you generally want to flank with Ahri) there but yes Ahri is a fine mid right now. It will be more challenging to use Ahri to play the objective oriented style I mentioned compared to my list though.

i like to play orianna is she a good pick to straight up carry games with?

You need good peel for Ori as she's super squishy. Pretty team dependent.

Didn`t really check much, but you have awful builds. Like really really awful.

You build Hydra and Spiritvisage on Khazix. Hydra can be good, but SV is ALWAYS bad. On Akali you build Twin Shadows, I don`t think I`ve ever build this item. It`s sometimes good on supports but on Akali ... nope.

Banshees is overall >>>> SV. SV is good on champions that benefit from the passive(WW, Nidalee etc.)

Yes absolutely, hold your ult until you obliterate them.

Not really, she has a shield + speed up and incredible disengage. If you're positioned with your team you'll generally be fine and if you feel at risk an early Zhonya's usually fixes it quite nicely after Athene's.

you can't build early zhonya and athenes on ori thats just not good

early cap/void staff powerspike is very important

its fine if you are super ahead, but not as a if you afraid of dying, you might as well concede if you go athenes/zhonya while you are behind

honestly i'm not sure why everyone is beating around the bush.

your post is similar to those posts in poker forums by people wanting a get rich cookie cutter strat or asking how many bb/100 they can expect to make at 100NL after playing 10k hands of 50NL.

You're looking for easy tips to hard carry games when even your itemization seems terrible.
Futhermore, comments like these:

sound like you have almost no understanding of the game.

I mean to begin with, you main mid and you're asking about orianna. Secondly, and likely more importantly, the way you phrase it leads one to believe you don't really understand HOW to carry on any sort of level deeper than "well i carry by getting tons of kills & **** with OP champs"

You say you play in gold but keep going g2->g3 b/c u can't singlehandedly carry yet you ask for some mistakes gold players make so you can exploit them. You need to build an understanding of this game in order to consistently play well ("carry" as you call it). An understanding of the game implies being able to recognize mistakes other players make. If this were challenger then the question would actually, and counter-intuitively, be more legit as people there make way fewer mistakes and way less obvious ones. However, in gold, if you're not noticing dozens of mistakes each game, your understanding of the game is waaaaay way below that of someone who will be able to consistently "carry" and get out of gold.

I mean look, i'm silver and i think your thought process is terrible and very akin to lvl 1 reg-fish in poker; granted there's not that much skill difference between silver and gold but if even i notice your glaring thought process leaks then there's no way you're going to outplay gold players strategically and tactically (which seems to be part of the problem as you're only talking about champs that are good to carry, but very little about strategy, etc - you admit you don't know when or why to splitpush*)

*this is like regfish pressing buttons. they raise or checkraise but have no idea why, likely because they've seen some guy do it in a video with a similar hand but on a totally different texture/vs a totally different opponent



take nisash for example. I hate the guy(obv not literally), his posts annoy me more often than not and his personality irks me. However, the guy ****ing understands the game soooo much better than me and that's likely why he's so much higher than me (that and my playing high most of the time). Everytime he posts whining about a game, he points out mistakes other players make that i don't even consider in-game (maybe b/c my mechanics aren't at the unconscious level of learning meaning i still have to focus on them which takes mental power from focusing on other, subtler, things). He understands how to splitpush, when to splitpush, when to group when not to group, he understands jungler pressure and counter pressure and the way it relates to how a laner should behave. But most importantly, he understands WHY, he understands not only the answers to these questions, but the reasons why the answers are what they are. Which is an amazing thing, because it means that you know these answer for every(within reason) situation that will come up, because u haven't just learned these things by heart, you understand the logic of it and therefore can formulate an answer for different situations. Basically you always know what to do next and why.


^ was that some good negging?

Speaking of itemization, this game:



you went 9/1/x with likely better farm then i get at 25 mins but you went double dorans, flask into athene's. vs viktor. What happened there, how did u get to those items? Why would you start flask vs viktor? how did you come to buy the 2nd dorans ring? i assume you started flask then not sure how u went into 2 dorans but you're delaying your athene's SO much it's ridiculous

Tremendous work from all involved

Yeah I was thinking of a few games where I was very ahead, I'm just learning Ori so this was helpful .

ok, i've read some very usefull tips. and onion what i mean by i can't carry is: my mechanics on my favorite champs are insane aka zed talon yasuo etc BUT my possitioning in tealfights kinda sucks balls deep! also i don't know what to do as an assassin when i'm fed into oblivion do i splitpush? do i teamfight? do i rush GA and keep teamfight??? i really really want to get better annd believe me my understanding of the game is sufficient in gold but i need to get knowledge to get to plat like possitioning and getting higher knowledge when an enemy is waay out to possition or making a big mistake so i can win the teamfights alone,
PS: agreed my orianna build duscked i mostly go dorans first then get 1 more and flask on first back, then mostly go athenes, this is b/c i don't play mages i play assassins exclusively b/c they feel good and i'm an absolute monster with them b/c i enjoy them alot, this is the main reason i play them b/c i like to play them and i know i win 95% o all lane matchups.

If you can't team fight assassins then that's part of playing them well, they are much more difficult to position in team fights and manage late game. As I mentioned, split pushing with a 4 : 1 split with Zed is not the easiest thing to coordinate in solo queue thus not one of my favorite strategies. It is however how you are supposed to use Zed generally (particularly if you can't be effective in team fights which will take lots of study and practice for positioning).

You can try forcing the split push with extra investment in wards / vision control but you should probably just learn some non-assassin's . Learning how to team fight assassins effectively will be just as challenging as learning a more team fight oriented mage / role so I wouldn't recommend that before balancing out your game.

Carrying is a bad concept IMO, you need to think about impact towards winning. If you get gold leads but can't use them effectively, you are in essence playing poorly.

A few general tips on playing assassins...

RE: teamfights. Basically your strategy should be to hide somewhere, wait until the fight starts and the enemy frontline is occupied and then dive a carry. Hopefully you kill them instantly. If you succeed in doing so you've done your job and anything after this is a bonus. Your priority now though should be to stay alive as assassins are generally vulnerable after they've blown cooldowns and if the enemy team is smart they'll jump on you asap.

From a general decision making standpoint... once you've snowballed your lane, your job is to snowball the game and your teammates. It takes experience to determine what is needed for this each game but as an assassin, this usually means ganking other lanes and securing objectives. You also need to identify and neutralize the single biggest obstacle to you carrying the game. Is their ADC fed? Camp bot and don't live until you've killed her 3 times. Is their jungler taking over the game? Look to get some vision in their jungle and choose a good time to invade.

Mechanics are important but decision making is paramount. It sounds like this should be the next focus for you in order to reach the next level.