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most entertaining game overall this year, just amazing from that point on

Fenix played Zed so well that game, and Morg Shield with AP is so broken good

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03-02-2015 , 06:40 PM

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I think Morg is the strongest champion in the game right now, she just has everything in her kit you want to have in a champion. Buildin sustain, waveclear, long range cc, a spellshield and a cculti. She is prob gonna end up being banned 100% in the future.

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Just checked in NA/EU -LCS Morg is 31/16

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03-02-2015 , 06:45 PM

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Nerfing Q duration has long been overdue. It is the longest non-ulti CC. Yeah, skill blah blah can miss, but that's compensated by the extremely long range. Just taking it to 1.5-2.5s from 2-3s should be enough.

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03-02-2015 , 06:48 PM

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isn't it the longest cc in the game?

riots plan with her was probably that root into her pool to be her damage resulting in her root being too long (not to mention that awful hitbox)

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03-02-2015 , 07:09 PM

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No its not the duration, the hitbox of Q is just broken and there were a lot of complains but it never got fixed afaik. Also in combination with her whole kit its just too much, you gapclose on an ADC, you get binded he gets blackshielded then you get ultied and then binded again because lol maxcdr. There really isn´t much counterplay especially in competitive, like how on earth are you gonna get to an adc vs a morg + support + qss and ****, it`s not gonna happen.

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03-02-2015 , 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NiSash1337

how is the duration not broken when any other form of CC almost never even reaches 2 seconds let alone 3 (+ her ulti and another binding; irelia stun is ******ed too)

as for her hitbox -> it's indeed ******ed

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03-02-2015 , 08:32 PM

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well even in season 4

Fiddle had 3sec fear
Rammus had 3sec taunt

they got nerfed(though not enough fwiw)

Morg Q somehow survived the nerf streak, she she's huge amounts of play and the other 2 are at least situational and much easier to counter.

if it was the only thing she had going for her it might be ok, but she has Black Shield and the Ult. Veigar had a 2.5 sec stun that for some reason pro's took 3 ****ing years to learn was the most OP skill in the game. Morg Q/E are probably both in the top 10 non-ult skills in the game.

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03-02-2015 , 09:14 PM

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If you analyze the CLG vs TL game you come to the conclusion that CLG was drawing dead at one point. How are you ever going to win a teamfight vs a fullbuild Jinx with Morgana(like a 700 blackshield), Janna peel(Mikaels as well) and a Banshees on her and in some fights she will have flash and heal.

You have to somehow kill everybody else before Jinx does work, but that`s not gonna happen. If you can`t teamfight you`d have to splitpush but the Zed is laughing at anybody coming to splitpush.

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03-02-2015 , 09:48 PM

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Morg just needs a small rework IMO. Basically reduce the stun duration on Q and up the initial damage on W. Make the pool smaller and a little harder to hit so you incentivize hitting the binding and getting that guaranteed initial damage from the W.

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03-03-2015 , 11:52 AM

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CLG vs TL game obv the game plan for CLG was never to reach full late game (or reach it with 2/3 inhibs down for TL). 2 adcs and nid with top rumble and only 1 tank with braum are going to get melted by jinx. It didn't even mater if zed couldn't 100-0 anyone, just that he gets enough spell rotations off to get them low enough for jinx to get resets. Their team just pushed towers extremely fast early and are good at siege/poke.

It's a bit like the TL vs TSM game against jinx/cassio. They had to crush mid game/get inhibs to win. CLG didn't even have an assassin to kill the jinx so they can never win a tf full items.

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03-03-2015 , 11:53 AM

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Doublelift got caught but also zion wasn't that great on rumble imo. Xmithy did ok but he isn't the best nid player either.

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03-05-2015 , 12:32 PM

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moving Altec to support is a Vulcun lvl roster move

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03-07-2015 , 04:43 PM

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Auto demotion is actually a good thing.
It'll save us having to watch coast play 5 more games.

Last edited by dlorc; 03-07-2015 at 04:57 PM.

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03-07-2015 , 05:02 PM

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lol stealaments

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03-07-2015 , 05:04 PM

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How the **** did DIG not win already ffs. Also if CST gets relegated, DIG should try to get Impaler. Because lol azingy.

Funnily enough Jesiz is crushing as ADC in Soloq, definitely impressive to make a switch from mid to adc and be Top 40 EU challenger already(after playing in NA) those games pretty much show that he wasn`t the problem at all. EU ADC/Jungle is stacked tho so don´t think Jesiz/Impaler have much of a future in EU.

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03-07-2015 , 05:09 PM

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Holy **** Azingy, those smites.

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03-07-2015 , 05:10 PM

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observer is just awful today. are they using the auto camera?

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03-07-2015 , 05:12 PM

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Yeah Shiptur won the game and we didn`t see if it was lolmancloud.

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03-07-2015 , 05:13 PM

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how safe can Shook be right now?

Azingy smites giving Saint a run for his money

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03-07-2015 , 05:18 PM

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Yeah I think Shook is one of the junglers who might get replaced, depends on how the season progresses. If they keep failing, Impaler to EL might be possible.

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03-07-2015 , 05:19 PM

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Impaler was so good last season in eu, he could easily replace anyone not called reignover in eu.

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03-07-2015 , 05:20 PM

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Imapler to EL is extremely unlikely I think. Froggen thinks highly of shook

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03-07-2015 , 05:25 PM

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Jesiz used to play adc and switched to mid back when he joined SK.

Coast problem is lack of talent all of their players are weak lcs players, if they had great synergy or shotcalling maybe they could survive but they dont.

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03-07-2015 , 05:26 PM

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Impaler was so good last season in eu, he could easily replace anyone not called reignover in eu.

Yeah he is my favorite jungler and I think he is one of the best junglers. My jungletierlist for EU is

Jungle

#1 Reignover
#2 Svenskeren
#3 Diamond
#4 Kikis/ Airwaks/Horo/Shook/Jankos/Loulex
#10 Giants

The only one I see who could possible get replaced right now(might change at the end of the season) is, Shook. MYM most likely will be gone anyways so that doesn`t matter. I don`t like Loulex but they are 7:0 right now so there is like no way of him being replaced. Airwaks is playing really well too and fits the team really good.

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03-07-2015 , 05:31 PM

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Imapler to EL is extremely unlikely I think. Froggen thinks highly of shook

Shook is just to inconsitent, either he crushes or doesn´t do anything. Also he lost the game vs SK by himself. EL had a big lead and Nyph was calling "No No don`t go" and he still did this ******ed engage and gave SK the comeback.

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