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It would def be a waste for such a great player to be benched. The only jungler who is on his lvl is meteos imo. His mechanics are def superior to oddones and I don`t think it would take him long to do oddones job better than him.

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01-28-2014 , 06:32 PM

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templar rage

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Nightblue probably isn't even the 2nd best jungler on TSM, let alone better than Oddone. Tbh, I've never seen him play, but if Oddone died tomorrow, I'd bet on Ninjaken getting called up over Nightblue every single time.

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01-28-2014 , 06:39 PM

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Snamuh

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I don't have a strong opinion either way but how can you make this post? You're speaking with a lot of conviction for someone that hasn't even seen him play.

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01-28-2014 , 06:43 PM

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NiSash1337

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Nightblue has more letters than ninjaken and oddone thus the ranking oddone > ninjaken > nightblue

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01-28-2014 , 07:15 PM

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I don't have a strong opinion either way but how can you make this post? You're speaking with a lot of conviction for someone that hasn't even seen him play.

I was thinking the same thing too.

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01-28-2014 , 07:17 PM

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templar rage

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Yes, I'm very confident that a random solo queue hero no one knew about 2 months ago is a worse player than the professional jungler on TSM.

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01-28-2014 , 07:33 PM

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Yes, I'm very confident that a random solo queue hero no one knew about 2 months ago is a worse player than the professional jungler on TSM.

Wat.
He's been streaming for quite a while now, him and sirchez were easily the most watched non-pro streams of the last 6 months.

He was top 5 challenger quite a lot last season, thats just some ignorant ****

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01-28-2014 , 08:11 PM

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Yes, I'm very confident that a random solo queue hero no one knew about 2 months ago is a worse player than the professional jungler on TSM.

I can't speak for snamuh obv but i meant that you said you've never seen him play and were sayjng that. Idon't even think blue has been streaming that long which makes his come up even more legit. He was rank 3 in challenger.

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01-28-2014 , 09:00 PM

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Oddone is >>>>> Nightblue

Nightblue is real talented, but you need to have experience at a competitive level, especially in the jungle. Jungling in ranked 5s is so much different than playing in a coordinated team. For example, spring split last year, Crumbz missed a weak of LCS and Dignitas brought in DJ Lambo a highly regarded solo queue jungler - and he was AWFUL. And this is in comparison to Crumbz for god sakes.

If Nightblue was playing on a decent challenger team and learning the ropes of Ranked 5s than you can make a case that maybe next year or split he could replace Oddone, right now, there is no chance.

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01-28-2014 , 09:16 PM

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01-28-2014 , 11:00 PM

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I don't think you can say oddone is better than him. It would be ******ed to bench him though. Oddone is a pillar of tsm like dyrus (bjergerking is more popular cause hes good but only that)

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01-29-2014 , 12:07 AM

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he's good but he's selfish in soloQ and that just doesn't work on the pro-scene junglers are support #2 on pretty much every team out there

Oddone is TSM's weakpoint but that's only vs international competition, I guess you can make the case that planning for s4 worlds is the key and nightblue with time/xp is going to be better

honestly TSM could sub him in during non-C9 match weeks since they are so much better than the other 6 just to see how he works

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01-29-2014 , 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by templar rage

Yes, I'm very confident that a random solo queue hero no one knew about 2 months ago is a worse player than the professional jungler on TSM.

"Nightblue probably isn't even the 2nd best jungler on TSM, let alone better than Oddone. Tbh, I've never seen him play, but if Oddone died tomorrow, I'd bet on Ninjaken getting called up over Nightblue every single time. "

You said that without even seeing him play, you are very confident that Ninjaken (who is not a professional player) is better than him as well. However, true or not, it's still absolutely ridiculous to make a definitive comparison statement for ANYONE without seeing one of the parties play.

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01-29-2014 , 12:56 AM

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o hai i haven't seen this guy play but i know for a fact that he's worse than this other guy

lolol gotta love the internet

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01-30-2014 , 06:27 PM

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i think what makes oddone so good on TSM is that he has a play style (support/utility jungler) that really compliments having 3 players on your team who can carry in any given game, especially the world class mid.

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01-31-2014 , 02:12 AM

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complements*, you philistine

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02-01-2014 , 04:05 PM

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lol phreaks collar

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02-01-2014 , 04:28 PM

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Seriously Jatt is so bad. Says the most obv things ever and tries to make it sound like he is knowledgeable. I cringe just hearing his theorys.

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02-01-2014 , 04:30 PM

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Well do you know how many Bronzeplayers watch this?

Watching Zuna do wolves with Khazix is cringeworthy though just stands there and autos.

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Pretty sure you can isolate the redbuff but well just stand there auto and take max dmg.