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Stop leveling life drain at level 3 which is enough to do dragon at level 5 with blue.

After that level

R > Q > W > E.

Q is better because when you gank the extra .5 seconds the target is feared will do more dps in general than the increase damage on W.

Usually I go W E W Q W R then follow the chart.

Also don't get rylais imo, 2x dorans ring followed by sorc boots followed by rabadons and zhonyas

I love fiddle. The only bad thing about Fiddle at low elo is that if you wanna win games you have to lead your team and fiddle is horrible at initiating.

Life drain is your bread and butter.... it does more damage than your auto attack. Yes you can do drag with lvl 3 life drain but will take a long time and will get you low. Life drain is such a good skill you have to max it first. It continues to attack even if the enemy is in the bush or for example vlad uses pool. Your build works too but I like building a little tanky for fiddle. I find too many times fiddle gets one shotted after a stun and the slow is very helpful as well.

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08-22-2011 , 03:37 PM

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Ashe is the standard AD Carry (a ranged dps that uses physical auto-attacks for most of the damage).

If you want raged AP (dps that uses abilities to deal most damage) carries then Annie is very good. Both are cheap.

Just go to solomid (e.g. google 'solomid annie') and look up a guide for your champ. There you'll find what items to buy given different situations.

I find that Annie is extremely overrated. Whenever someone picks annie first I always get LB or Ori or brand and I beat annie 100% of the time.

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08-22-2011 , 04:05 PM

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Brand is definitely a counter-pick for Annie in mid but he's still like S tier caster even if you don't pick him just to beat Annie. Orianna is just OP -- during IEM if she wasn't banned, the team that drafted her won like 100% of the time. LeBlanc and Kassidan can beat Annie in lane just by nature of their playstyles, but for teamfights Annie >>>>>> both of them.

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08-22-2011 , 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kalv

I mean your role as a jungler should be to gank and Q is just way better for ganking than W. I mean to each his own.

I just looked at saintvicious' fiddle and he goes WEWQW R QWW

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08-22-2011 , 04:55 PM

#1380

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Agreed, not sure how anyone can call Annie overrated... Shes one of the best 4 casters with Malz, Brand, and Orianna... no one said she is the GOAT but for 450 ip (and being incredibly easy to learn and use) she is def the go to first champ to learn imo.

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08-22-2011 , 06:59 PM

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Just bought Nocturne, but I seem to really suck at jungling. I'm only lvl 16, so I don't have a full rune set. Should I just not try to jungle for now? Also, any pro tips that might not be covered in the guides?

One thing I wonder is whether it's even worth it to jungle while playing solo queue. A lot of people don't know how to hold the 2v1 lane. Also, it kinda sucks having to wait for the team fight to be almost over before I can safely enter.

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08-22-2011 , 07:16 PM

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You'll struggle to jungle properly on noct before ~20, and as you'll be playing with people around your level they will be unlikely to hold 1v2 properly.

Just shelve the idea until 20+ or get the soloer to take teleport.

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08-23-2011 , 02:40 AM

#1383

ImsaKidd

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I have forgotten how to win at this game.

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08-23-2011 , 02:46 AM

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Foxtorpedo

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You prolly need to go cloth armor + pots, and start with blue rune. With runes you can get vampiric scepter and go enemy wraiths->wolves->wraiths-> golems-> base and after that start a rotation where you can gank after every mob.

You just need to gank top alot and it will all be jolly.

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08-23-2011 , 03:32 AM

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this weeks free rotation:

Ryze
Teemo
Chogath
Gragus
Nidalee
Veigar
Zilean
Skarner
Shen
Urgot

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08-23-2011 , 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ImsaKidd

I have forgotten how to win at this game.

+1

I'm one a 7 game losing streak. Part of it is that I queue with 4 friends of mine who are all level 30 (I'm 16) so we're at a disadvantage there. Usually we do decently but tonight we just hit a run of losses.

It kinda sucks cause Mao is my best champ so I end up playing him exclusively since I'm already at a disadvantage playing above my level. Doesn't really let me explore other champs.

Definitely gonna play some Gragas, Nidalee, and maybe some Urgot this week.

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08-23-2011 , 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmyer

this weeks free rotation:

Ryze
Teemo
Chogath
Gragus
Nidalee
Veigar
Zilean
Skarner
Shen
Urgot

FEEDFEST

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08-23-2011 , 04:49 AM

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yeah all those champs are like hard to play well lol

it's going to be a miserable week, except for the fact that I get to play ****ing Zilean

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08-23-2011 , 06:57 AM

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I've been falling in love with lanewick this week. Thought I'd lose him in the rotation but then realized he was in the champ bundle I bought

Excited to try Nidalee now though. Gragus and Urgot as well.

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08-23-2011 , 07:07 AM

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Im hooked on Lux, played her last week when she was free and now I just bought her. wee

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08-23-2011 , 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfram

I've been falling in love with lanewick this week. Thought I'd lose him in the rotation but then realized he was in the champ bundle I bought

Excited to try Nidalee now though. Gragus and Urgot as well.

Nid is hard but alot of fun. Really hard to play well because there is alot going on and her jump and spear take some finese. gl gl

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08-23-2011 , 09:42 AM

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Roger Mainfield

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I just tried Zilean and had no luck, I really like Morgana so might buy her.

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08-23-2011 , 09:54 AM

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Did they post the video of the IEM finals yet?

I keep going here: http://iemgamescom.leagueoflegends.c...s-team-solomid, but every time they say "video coming soon"

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08-23-2011 , 12:54 PM

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I'm on tilt right now. Got on at 3-4am for the first time in a few days and DL'd a patch. When I finished the update I tried to sign in but I got "client version 1.42.34 rejected by server" I assumed I just DL'd the patch early before the patch was fully implemented so my client was not in use yet. Then I find out patch has been pushed back so I uninstall LoLa few hours ago and reinstall.

Same problem again.

Any ideas?

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08-23-2011 , 01:01 PM

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ImsaKidd

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Originally Posted by Quagmyer

this weeks free rotation:

Ryze
Teemo
Chogath
Gragus
Nidalee
Veigar
Zilean
Skarner
Shen
Urgot

IMMA PLAY DUHHH NEW CHAMPION

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08-23-2011 , 01:33 PM

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Wolfram

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Love affair with lanetankwick cemented.

Played a game vs Shen, trynd, teemo, akali and skarn. Stack armor time.

At one point I was alone in their base and 3 of them "ganked" me. I tried running away but realized I couldn't because of slows so I just spammed Q while I waited for my teammates. They must have jabbed away on me for 30 seconds before I got help and I got out alive while we got an Ace

. Frozen Heart+Spirit Visage+Randuin's Omen FTW.

I ended 12/4/9.

Edit:
****, didn't even realize Randuin's has an active. I wouldn't have had to bluepill after the fight if I'd used that.

Last edited by Wolfram; 08-23-2011 at 01:39 PM.

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08-23-2011 , 01:36 PM

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2+2 pick my next jungler:
Noct
Udyr
Lee Sin

Currently use mainly WW for jungling with some gp/trundle thrown in too. I want a good counter jungler tho and those 3 all look ****ing awesome. Leaning towards Lee Sin, but noct is great for ganking w/ ult even if they ward, and Udyr seems ridic good too.