points in w reduce the CD. as an escape mechanic, that will be far more useful to you.

It can just be really really detrimental to find W on CD when you need it.

This is the ashe build I use. I like the IE as the first major item as it works so well with ashes passive. Soraka helps ashe a **** ton in lane!

to the bolded: how? Ok, the CD goes down, but it is still 10s+. You MIGHT get it off twice if you get ganked, but probably just once anyway.

I guess what I don't understand is how having like 20 extra dmg (or 40 in the best case if you get two volleys off/land both) going to help your escapes more than a 10% increase on slow

IMO Ashe is not one of those AD carries which can turn a jungle gank in to a 2-0 exchange for your team.. for her, it is important that the jungler does not get close enough to do his thing. So increase in slow >>>> increase in damage IMO.

Ur assuming there is only one context for the CDR on W to be useful. The one you illustrate, getting off a 2nd W when ganked, can be EXTREMELY useful.

Then there are times when you need to use volley in lane to last hit/stop harass/harass. lvl 1 W has a 20 second CD. Maxing it, ur down to 12 seconds. Say you W, then 6 seconds later their jungle comes. During ur run, you will probably get to W. It's literally life and death. conversly, Q does literally nothing, because you will not be stopping to auto attack.

By lvl 7, it's an 8 second CD, but lvl 9 it's a 4 second CD. Ur still going to be laning at this point, and fighting over dragon. 4 seconds vs 20 seconds makes a world of difference, when it's your primary kiting spell, does aoe damage, and aoe slows.

Just in lane, being able to W w/o fear of being on CD (pushing, harassing, counter harassing, etc..)

IMO it's seriously not even remotely close.

oh and Q is rediculous on ur mana. You should be using it almost never early on. I wouldn't use it to harass unless the kill is VERY likely or you'll fk up ur ability to lane.

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Punch you are my favorite poster ever for that throwback.

that page with the ak quote lol

So many good throwbacks in this thread....

What is is about LOL that keeps people around? Given its numerous and obvious correctable flaws.

As much as I think the community is awful, Its negativity and harshness may push people many ego driven people to succeed in the most rage inducing, accessible, difficult, game in history. Look at the amount of self glorification over respect or positive words given. This seems to be a game of Self, tragically trapped within a team game dynamic. A great microcosm of our new self destructive secular world collective. Team Game but everyone for themselves and everyone their own god (or Summoner).

Its something personal... Id like to think i'm challenging myself. Ill just say i Take the game personally but to take the facepalm people's insults personally is not how I got wrapped up. In other words Ego is not my reason to play this game, personal challenge is... What is yours?

Because i'm bad at starcraft.

i got these cheeseburgers mannnnnn

When the game actually becomes a team game, it is fantastic

Start 12-1 and destroy my lane. I also manage to steal dragon 1v4 with Jarvan's E after hiding in the mid river bush.

Team loses.

I don't play with a team, but it's so awesome when your team coordinates well in solo queue.

Was just on a team of Ali (me), Wukong, Cass, MF, Nocture and we were all on the same page when it came to teamfight initations. I would try to land a big pulverize, wukong would ult, cass would ult, MF would ult, and Noc would go for their Ashe. It was great.

anybody watching wickd stream? snoopeh dc's for 5 mins, they're 2 and 16, noone rages and now they just got baron and are winning team fights

clg eu is too good

Cooldown: 16 / 13 / 10 / 7 / 4 seconds

LOL

I'm like 100% positive I'm talking about Raffy too.

<3 Cass. So much fun imo.

streaming normals

www.own3d.tv/raffyisgosu

http://www.own3d.tv/chatpopout/raffyisgosu_34804

Use heal you nub.

i am the worst vayne of all time

Lololol that Trundle would not give up

3 shotting kids while invis too hard?

Vayne is well documented as the hardest character in the league. It's even in part of her lore...

She was originally an april fool's joke designed to tilt people because her mechanics are so frustrating, and it got out of hand.