Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion

07-18-2011 , 03:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ItalianFX
Wow, I just wrecked with ChoGath.

20-0-7. Doran's Ring, Rod of Ages, Mercury's Treads, Frozen Heart, Blasting Wand, and Ruby Crystal. I think I had 7 or 8 stacks on my Feast.

145 minions killed and 3 turrets destroyed along with killing the Nexus at the end.

As soon as the game was over 2 guys, 1 on my team and 1 on the other team, added me to their friend's list. hahaha
Congrats on the awesome game! Beautiful build order, as well. Feast maxes at 6 stacks, tho
glgl
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 04:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kyleb
1) Pirate

enormous gap


huge



not even joking


lol ridiculous

2) Jarvan

small gap

3) Annie
3a) Udyr
Which pirate? Gangplank or Miss Fortune?
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 05:03 AM
Gangplank. MF is preeeettty bad.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 05:38 AM
I still consider Morde to be pretty broken no matter the fact that he is not played in top games cause PRO's know how to crush him.

The fact that you can absolutely dominate with pretty much no effort (pop shield, farm non stop, get fed, kill everyone without dropping below 50% health) in a vast majority of solo Q games = broken to me.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 06:04 AM
Teams know how to crush him, and this is a team game.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 06:05 AM
All the nubs think mord is op, its pretty funny. I mean if you let him free farm all game hes going to be OP - just like any hero in the game. But good players wont let mord just free farm.

But the OP champs at the moment are Orianna, Gankplank, Udyr, Annie, Fiddle, Yorrick ( he was buff way too much).

Alot other viable champs to play, if you get good at them. You dont just have to play OP stuff to do well.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 06:29 AM
I was strictly talking about normal solo Q, as that is where majority of LoL players play and that is where Mordekaiser is absolutely dominating.

You are right, teams know how to crush him (I posted that fwiw). Of course, very good players won't allow him to free farm. But that was not my point

What I mean by broken is not necessarily OP in general - I mean that the skill cap of playing him is extremely low. All of that is said in the first post, but obviously it's better to just call someone a noob

to re-word it to you - Mordekaiser is a broken champ, because of the extremely low skill cap that is required to dominate the normal solo que games that are played by the majority of LoL players.

And fwiw, I don't play any of the champs you listed, so no bias in that regard
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 06:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YouKnowWho
I was strictly talking about normal solo Q, as that is where majority of LoL players play and that is where Mordekaiser is absolutely dominating.

You are right, teams know how to crush him (I posted that fwiw). Of course, very good players won't allow him to free farm. But that was not my point

What I mean by broken is not necessarily OP in general - I mean that the skill cap of playing him is extremely low. All of that is said in the first post, but obviously it's better to just call someone a noob

to re-word it to you - Mordekaiser is a broken champ, because of the extremely low skill cap that is required to dominate the normal solo que games that are played by the majority of LoL players.

And fwiw, I don't play any of the champs you listed, so no bias in that regard
The skill cap of most champs in this game is very low. In game Knowledge is most important; e.g correct builds, how to lane, when to fight, champion abilities etc.

Mord ES #1 huhuheuhue
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 07:27 AM
nice game,I've tried cho-gath,garren,bought master yi and ryze.
played multiple time with rize trying to follow a build from mobafire,playing 5v5 custom co op vs ai intermediate.

I'm so horrible I can't believe it.
I'm always behind in levels,it takes ages to buy the stuff for the build,I don't know what I'm supposed to do,nobody really speak we are all too bad and I feel I'm the worse technically speaking,even though I'm good on the strategy side.
I just keep dying a lot and never killing much things.

Is it me or this game is tough?
It suck that 1 game takes that long too,and that if you leave you get reported,so you're kinda stuck(and I don't like leaving anyway) in a long game.

I feel like watching streams is more fun than playing(like in starcraft 2 except I feel more able than in LoL).
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 09:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GHAND
All the nubs think mord is op, its pretty funny. I mean if you let him free farm all game hes going to be OP - just like any hero in the game. But good players wont let mord just free farm.

But the OP champs at the moment are Orianna, Gankplank, Udyr, Annie, Fiddle, Yorrick ( he was buff way too much).

Alot other viable champs to play, if you get good at them. You dont just have to play OP stuff to do well.
fiddle is op?
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 09:55 AM
Actually played against Yorric today several times and noticed he's only 'op' early game with his insane harassment. If you don't feed him and play smart he's pretty much useless late game -- at least that's what I noticed so far.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 11:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolodecks
Congrats on the awesome game! Beautiful build order, as well. Feast maxes at 6 stacks, tho
glgl
Thanks! Yeah I realized after trying something against the AI afterwards that it stacks at 6. I wasn't really paying attention to the number, I just remember seeing 6 and knowing that I didn't kill some people with the Feast. And then towards the end it was like Me vs 20 minions while I was killing the nexus. I was going to town. I also realized you can build your Feast stacks by killing creep. Is that something you do in the beginning when it's safer to do so?

Quote:
Originally Posted by weeeez
nice game,I've tried cho-gath,garren,bought master yi and ryze.
played multiple time with rize trying to follow a build from mobafire,playing 5v5 custom co op vs ai intermediate.

I'm so horrible I can't believe it.
I'm always behind in levels,it takes ages to buy the stuff for the build,I don't know what I'm supposed to do,nobody really speak we are all too bad and I feel I'm the worse technically speaking,even though I'm good on the strategy side.
I just keep dying a lot and never killing much things.

Is it me or this game is tough?
It suck that 1 game takes that long too,and that if you leave you get reported,so you're kinda stuck(and I don't like leaving anyway) in a long game.

I feel like watching streams is more fun than playing(like in starcraft 2 except I feel more able than in LoL).
Focus on last hitting. There has been a couple times I had to remind people in game to focus on last hitting. One guy was playing that crocodile dude and he would just go into a group of full HP minions and use his abilities on them and then he would die, die, and die when the other team came around while I would stay alive and then wait for my chance to kill the other team.

When the game starts during the first wave of minions, if you go top or bottom, stay on the inside of the minions. Most people rush to the corners and go in the grass to stay hidden. If you're on the outside you may get ganked early on in the game.

Try staying in your lane for as long as possible. Don't be afraid to poke in to last hit. Early on everyone is nearly equal so when you start walking towards someone they may think you're coming after them and they will back up. If it's 1v2 and it's clear they aren't going to let you in, then stay back a little bit and just farm XP (or if you're a ranged champion you can just hit from a distance). If they are getting a good push on your lane, stay around your tower so that you have more defense - but make sure you're in range to get the XP. Also, do some harassing. Every now and then hit whoever is in your lane. If they ignore it you'll start to lower their HP and then you can jump on them when they are really low. If they don't want that to happen they will back up after a couple times.

Eventually there will be an opening in your lane - or you can ask your teammates for help - and you can get to work on gold. If you're getting up there in level then you can go kill some of the neutral monsters and try to build some gold that way. But you need to stay aggressive and show people that you aren't going to back down. Just try not to overcommit and die. IMO, if you're full health, people will be less willing to attack you. If you get low on health, you will really want to watch what you're doing as you become a target very quickly.

Lastly, always be moving. Dodge around while you wait to last hit a minion. Like, always be clicking your champion around and try to stay in a good defensive position. After you take down a tower, back up and maybe go help your team in another lane, go back and buy something/heal up/etc. Don't just keep pushing through as you start getting deeper into enemy territory. It took me a few games to realize that. You want a slow, gradual push where the enemy starts getting overwhelmed.

Anyways, that's from a noob.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 04:40 PM
thx forthe advices.
do you login quicker if you pay?
right now position in queuever 9000
approximate wait time 45 min (europe).
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 04:48 PM
Another important tip that will win games and isn't even hard to do.....



BUY WARDS they are so inexpensive and will overall help your team. If you are jungling, buy a ward for top/bot lane if they are having trouble.

Team comp is semi-important. Eventually learn to play all roles. It's so stupid if you only know how to play an AD carry when you team needs a jungle/tank.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 05:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by weeeez
thx forthe advices.
do you login quicker if you pay?
right now position in queuever 9000
approximate wait time 45 min (europe).
Do you mean find a game? I didn't know there was a queue to log in? I've never paid and I've never had a problem getting in.

Last night they were having problems with some games so I don't know.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 05:08 PM
yes its the login queu.
it says : we are experiencing an unusual amount of login
that happens on the evening where most people play.
At 5 in the morning this doesn't happen.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 05:09 PM
Hmm..weird. I have never seen that happen to anyone, but I don't have much experience with the game. Maybe someone else has an idea.

Also, separate subject:

Is there a way to change the position of the UI ingame? My buttons for the score screen are so low that everytime I go to click on one it makes my map scroll down. I'd like to bring them up just a bit so I can see the bottom border of the icon.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 05:09 PM
queue over 9000 is just when the servers are having some sort of trouble. dont worry about has nothing to do with you not giving them your money.

if you want to learn the importance of last hitting play a hero like annie. if you read her Q ability it really encourages making the killing blow with the spell since it refunds you the mana cost.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 06:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ItalianFX
Thanks! Yeah I realized after trying something against the AI afterwards that it stacks at 6. I wasn't really paying attention to the number, I just remember seeing 6 and knowing that I didn't kill some people with the Feast. And then towards the end it was like Me vs 20 minions while I was killing the nexus. I was going to town. I also realized you can build your Feast stacks by killing creep. Is that something you do in the beginning when it's safer to do so?
Yes, very important to Feast on creep to buildup your stacks quickly in the early game. Only save it for the other team if one of them in your lane is low health and you think your 3spell combo can kill them, or if a teamfight is about to happen. Otherwise, go ahead and use it on a creep as soon as it cools down
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 06:01 PM
Europe always has an awful awful queue, usually not a problem on NA servers though.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rolodecks
Yes, very important to Feast on creep to buildup your stacks quickly in the early game. Only save it for the other team if one of them in your lane is low health and you think your 3spell combo can kill them, or if a teamfight is about to happen. Otherwise, go ahead and use it on a creep as soon as it cools down
For ChoGath, what is the 3spell combo sequence? I usually go Q>W>R and throw in a D before the R when I'm running that spell that stuns them so they can't get away.

I had a game a little while ago, I was like 5-0-4 or something like that, I can't remember. We lost. I wasn't able to get many kills because they had a lot of heals on their team and the one guy was Kayle with Guardian Angel and he was just impossible to do any damage to. I did have over 200 minion kills though.

I always start with Doran's Ring and then skip the boots and go for Rod of Ages, then Mercury's Treads. This game I went with those 3, then got Frozen Heart, and Abyssal Scepter. I didn't know what else to buy at the end there. After the Rod of Ages and Mercury's Treads I don't know what is standard.

EDIT: We were getting pushed pretty hard and I knew we were going to lose so I was trying to think of something that had more AP or AD, but I didn't know what I should do and didn't have enough time to figure it out.

Last edited by ItalianFX; 07-18-2011 at 06:11 PM.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 06:11 PM
dont skip boots
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 06:18 PM
Yeah, the biggest difference between DotA and LoL (besides denying) is the fact that boots are very important early in LoL and not so much in DotA.

Watch the Season One Championships and look for patterns in why teams lose. More often than not, it boils down to these two major factors:

1) Team members being out of position due to overaggression/lane pushing
2) Poor map control

#1 is solved by not being an idiot and playing conservatively, and #2 is solved by getting wards.

If your score is something like 3-1-8 every game, that would be perfect for any teammate that I'd play with (for new people). The #1 priority - I cannot stress this enough - is not feeding.
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 06:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ItalianFX
For ChoGath, what is the 3spell combo sequence? I usually go Q>W>R and throw in a D before the R when I'm running that spell that stuns them so they can't get away.
QWR is right. Don't skip boots unless you somehow have enough for the blasting wand or the Rod of Ages outright. The speed is too important for chasing and running
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote
07-18-2011 , 09:33 PM
I just got hit with the login queue. Was up around 2000, but dropping very quickly.

EDIT: Now it's stuck at 52!

EDIT2: And I'm in and it's saying that some games are not working properly.!!!!
League of Legends Meta/Patch/General Discussion Quote

      
m