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Old 12-23-2015, 10:46 AM   #76
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

I've been in Silver for years, I only really play Arams tho
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Old 12-23-2015, 11:21 AM   #77
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

I was silver all season my 3 best winrates besides sejuani are Leona soraka and nautilus with around 60% WR.

I cant carry all games but I'm sure support is where I have the biggest influence on my team

I mostly play jungle supp and giving vision to your team for the whole game is better than getting 2 early kills on leblanc
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Old 12-23-2015, 01:53 PM   #78
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The difference between a good and bad support is so easy to notice.

VS a bad support their carries are free dinner, even if they're quite good but VS a good support it's so much tougher to kill their carry even if he is a noob
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Old 12-23-2015, 02:00 PM   #79
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The difference between a good and bad support is so easy to notice.

VS a bad support their carries are free dinner, even if they're quite good but VS a good support it's so much tougher to kill their carry even if he is a noob
This is so wrong and unfair. You tell me how to stop an adc from getting blitz hooked 10 times in 7 minutes and I will tell you how to win a lane every time as support.
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Old 12-23-2015, 02:05 PM   #80
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I meant in teamfightes since I usually don't really play bot

The thing is you can't prevent your ADC getting blitz hooked 7 times (maybe tell him to stand behind minions or something)

Now if this doesn't help, why bother staying in lane? I would roam a lot and try to feed mid and top as much as possible. I would try to ward their jungle or invade with your jungler. Just do something good on the other side of the map. You aren't going to protect your ADC anyway.

Now since I don't play bot a lot I may be wrong and maybe you could've saved your ADC but usually you can do something if not to help your ADC but to help your team.

And maybe when your ADC gets hooked you could've fought the enemy and get something in return (I can't tell since I don't know the details)

edit: I play mostly assassins like zed and leblanc, I was talking about my point of view in the previous post
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Old 12-23-2015, 02:21 PM   #81
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

Can you all please just stop discussing this, it just doesn't get anywhere. I offered him 100 times now to watch his replays he rather complains that he cant carry.
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Old 12-23-2015, 02:32 PM   #82
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Can you all please just stop discussing this, it just doesn't get anywhere. I offered him 100 times now to watch his replays he rather complains that he cant carry.
Bit random but:

I remember when you told me I needed to buy more pinkwards.... guess what I do now

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Also which trinket is the best? Is it still blue after the nerfs?
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Old 12-23-2015, 02:47 PM   #83
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Can you all please just stop discussing this, it just doesn't get anywhere. I offered him 100 times now to watch his replays he rather complains that he cant carry.
I don't know how to make replays.
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Old 12-23-2015, 02:50 PM   #84
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

It has been explained to you. There is replay.gg

http://www.replay.gg/

and op.gg
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Old 12-23-2015, 03:26 PM   #85
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

DD, you aren't even reading everyones posts. You must have been a chore to teach as a kid.
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Old 12-23-2015, 03:32 PM   #86
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DD, you aren't even reading everyones posts. You must have been a chore to teach as a kid.
I teach myself pretty much everything, but when I am taught I do much better with one on one instruction. I mentioned this in the other thread. I can read guides all day and I can read posts but until it is demonstrated and explained to me it will only help so much. School bored me to tears as a kid to be honest. But this thread isn't about me so I will leave it alone. Lets keep the non sequitur out of it, okay? I didn't ask for it.
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Old 12-23-2015, 03:40 PM   #87
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

Plenty are giving you pretty helpful suggestions but you're just finding excuses to everything that's being said. Maybe make a separate thread for your own progress.
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Old 12-23-2015, 03:53 PM   #88
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This is so wrong and unfair. You tell me how to stop an adc from getting blitz hooked 10 times in 7 minutes and I will tell you how to win a lane every time as support.
Guess what you just discovered how to carry as a support

pick blitz and hook the opposing adc 10 times in 7 minutes and your team will probably win

You can also pick Janna shield your ADC that got hooked, launch a tornado to disengage and save your stupid ADC from giving first blood, or morgana and carry your ADC by blackshielding him
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Old 12-23-2015, 03:57 PM   #89
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Also which trinket is the best? Is it still blue after the nerfs?
I think vision in its current state has its own metagame.

If you see opposing team having 4 blue trinket, you know they won't be able to clear yellow wards, so if you go with 2/3 yellow trinket in your team you'll have a lot of undetected vision, if you see opposing team has 3 red trinket just go full blue and let them walk with their useless vision clear
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Old 12-23-2015, 04:09 PM   #90
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I think vision in its current state has its own metagame.

If you see opposing team having 4 blue trinket, you know they won't be able to clear yellow wards, so if you go with 2/3 yellow trinket in your team you'll have a lot of undetected vision, if you see opposing team has 3 red trinket just go full blue and let them walk with their useless vision clear
This makes a lot of sense and is actually pretty clever

Thanks will definitely use this
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Old 12-23-2015, 04:45 PM   #91
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Plenty are giving you pretty helpful suggestions but you're just finding excuses to everything that's being said. Maybe make a separate thread for your own progress.
You're just making too much sense now
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Old 12-23-2015, 04:59 PM   #92
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

Playing support right now in a teambuilder game.

My ADC is premade and notorious feeder.

Will report back how it went.
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Old 12-23-2015, 05:08 PM   #93
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

I think i am just going to cheese ball yi until I hit gold then try my hand at support again. Seems like you guys are saying that support becomes better as you get higher in rank and maybe I should just play a brainless champ that I know I can make good decisions using.
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Old 12-23-2015, 05:18 PM   #94
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

But you're clearly not making good decisions NOW. It'll only get worse if you play against better opponents. I don't understand why you are basically spitting in the faces of everyone here that is genuinely trying to help you.

You can't get better until you admit that you're the problem and CHANGE something.



You don't want to GET better. You just want to BE better.


It doesn't work like that.
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Old 12-23-2015, 05:29 PM   #95
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

We lost hard. Didn't really matter what I did but made some terrible plays due to barely playing support.

Botlane did the best and we lost so that is already a grim sign.

They had some hard scaling hyper carries and we were done really fast (hi fed yasuo/yorick/graves jng with a tahm)

I feel like this was one of those games which are unwinnable form the role of support, but I definitely think I could've done much better.
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Old 12-23-2015, 05:51 PM   #96
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

Okay so this was only my 3rd time playing yi but I ended up with the lowest damage on my team which I KNOW isnt right. So tell me what to do differently.

http://www.replay.gg/search/na/Systolic#2046505755
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Old 12-23-2015, 06:02 PM   #97
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

I honestly don't feel like watching you play yi now with whom you have absolutely no experience. Alone building titanic hydra makes me facepalm.
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Old 12-23-2015, 06:08 PM   #98
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

I was going based off of this build

http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-le...at-tank-443448

But if youre going to set stipulations on what you will help me with, you tell me what to do/play and I will
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Old 12-23-2015, 06:12 PM   #99
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

side note - this is why I dont read guides. So many times I follow a guide and I hear 'that build is ****, etc'. How am I supposed to know what is good and what isnt?
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Old 12-23-2015, 06:13 PM   #100
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Re: I only lose cause of dem teammates! My ELO is rigged :(. And other delusions here.

mobafire guides are mostly put together and upvoted by trolls

probuilds.net

also just look at the standard builds on champion.gg
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