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07-20-2013 , 02:32 PM

imolin

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warmogs athenes all day baby

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07-20-2013 , 02:33 PM

Jackitos

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Sunfire/IE for jungler.

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07-20-2013 , 02:34 PM

Thread Cat, imo

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dude my BT/randuin caitlyn woulda wrecked you gotta have faith

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07-20-2013 , 02:36 PM

Jackitos

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I saw a Randuin/PD/LW Graves in a challenger stream, the other day. It was pretty bad. Graves team lost

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07-20-2013 , 02:36 PM

imolin

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my 5x bt last whisperer build confirmed best

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07-20-2013 , 02:37 PM

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I saw a Randuin/PD/LW Graves in a challenger stream, the other day. It was pretty bad. Graves team lost

well obv he doesn't have a BT what an idiot. replace PD with BT and baby you got a stew goin

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07-20-2013 , 02:38 PM

Jackitos

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A poop stew?

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07-20-2013 , 04:56 PM

aK13

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maybe some real discussion:

thoughts on KR Ryze build vs. NA Ryze build? (Spirit Visage - WOTA after ROA vs. Frozen Heart - Banshee's Veil)

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07-20-2013 , 05:45 PM

Thamel18

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KR Ryze build seems great if you're part of/against a double AP comp team. WOTA/SV seems like a near unkillable ryze during ult, and still has over 25% vamp outside of ult with 21 utility

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07-20-2013 , 06:14 PM

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Quagmyer

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its a solid build on Ryze regardless, with his passive scaling.

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07-20-2013 , 08:39 PM

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BitchiBee

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sunfire ie for every champion except no escape ad's

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07-21-2013 , 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aK13

maybe some real discussion:

thoughts on KR Ryze build vs. NA Ryze build? (Spirit Visage - WOTA after ROA vs. Frozen Heart - Banshee's Veil)

I don't think that's quite the build? SV -> Void Staff -> GA is how I thought it went. WOTA seems like overkill, you already vamp for a ton with your ult.

But I love that build more than anything in the world, would run against all but full AD comps (i'm looking at you CLG). Ranged ADs can't fight you anyway, and SV is amazing for not getting blown up and also sustaining a ton.

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07-21-2013 , 05:42 PM

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Ryze players should order their other solo laner to build WOTA imo. SV seems so much better than FH and it has a much more natural build up in lane (classic AP opponent)

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07-22-2013 , 12:00 AM

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Sona "AD" carry is really good. As in you're in place of the AD carry, but you don't build AD. Laning is a breeze and a Sona with infinite mana and max CDR is insanely good in sieging situations and quite good in teamfights as well.

Standard doran's blade start with lifesteal and ad runes (For laning. Otherwise it's hard to last hit and you're very weak at early levels)

CORE (IN THIS ORDER): Athenes -> CDR boot -> Tear

OTHER STUFF I LIKE: Bulwark -> Iceborn -> Randuins

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07-22-2013 , 12:50 AM

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The Current Hamkels List of Good Selections for the role of "AD Carry" or more accurately (in this case) "The Guy That Farms In The Duo Lane":
Ashe
Sona

Possibilities:
Orianna
Ryze
Zilean

Looking for ranged champions that are useful without insane amounts of farm and can lane decently well.

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07-22-2013 , 01:36 AM

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Jackitos

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Elise

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07-22-2013 , 03:04 AM

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aK13

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Originally Posted by Thread Cat, imo

I have seen that build before but not in recent OGN games. Probably comp dependent.

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07-22-2013 , 10:23 AM

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Elise

Seems decent, prob have to go pretty much full tank though as you're gonna be squishier coming out of bot lane.

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07-22-2013 , 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by aK13

I have seen that build before but not in recent OGN games. Probably comp dependent.

Yeah I'd imagine it depends on enemy comp a fair amount as well, if you're in danger of getting blown up GA would be better, if not then WotA is probably quite good

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07-22-2013 , 11:16 AM

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Jackitos

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Originally Posted by Thread Cat, imo

Seems decent, prob have to go pretty much full tank though as you're gonna be squishier coming out of bot lane.

Most supports have gold for locket/aegis, plenty tanky. She does % health also, so you don't need damage. Just maybe go 9 into offense for mpen.

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07-22-2013 , 11:19 AM

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I'm thinking soraka might be quite strong as well, going with a similar build to sona. Actually yeah soraka is probably godlike gonna try that out next.

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07-22-2013 , 11:46 AM

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Jackitos

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Always Brand, at least you get a stun and a burn

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07-22-2013 , 12:46 PM

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brand kinda needs levels i think and he doesn't really bring anything besides an unreliable stun

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07-22-2013 , 12:55 PM

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imolin

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i'm in for the raka lane ham

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07-22-2013 , 07:50 PM

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Brand/Annie bot lane

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