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01-14-2014 , 07:39 PM
Well, Shyvana didn't even move from top for the first 20 minutes.

And when was the last time someone built Wit's End in a pro game? I remember when that item was so broken and pretty much every jungler built gold item(s) into Wits. Then they nerfed it and it fell off a cliff with WotA
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01-14-2014 , 08:01 PM
I didn't see the first game but firefly might be right about cow. I mean that fb got him a second dorans and flask, chalice just seems so silly the mr point aside.
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01-14-2014 , 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by templar rage
Well, Shyvana didn't even move from top for the first 20 minutes.

And when was the last time someone built Wit's End in a pro game? I remember when that item was so broken and pretty much every jungler built gold item(s) into Wits. Then they nerfed it and it fell off a cliff with WotA
well at some point you will and Kha is already huge and going to eat you in 3secs with that build
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01-15-2014 , 02:43 PM
Shook top and Froggen walking Top while Dragon is visible for a longtime. Pretty bad rotations by Alliance.
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01-15-2014 , 02:48 PM
dat triforce on malphite
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01-15-2014 , 02:53 PM
And dat soon-to-be Atma's.
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01-15-2014 , 03:00 PM
Alliance look horrible

Man Wickd - Triforce is probably fine on Malph but Atmas? And then Spirit Visage (when their ad carry has 10 kills?)

Last edited by DatFirefly; 01-15-2014 at 03:06 PM.
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01-15-2014 , 03:05 PM
alliance has no synergy, no teamwork. froggen and wickd just constantly in awful positions.
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01-15-2014 , 03:07 PM
Wickd now with the Captain's boots.
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01-15-2014 , 03:09 PM
get these kids a sponsor
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01-15-2014 , 03:13 PM
Genja best eyebrows EU
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01-15-2014 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Karak
alliance has no synergy, no teamwork. froggen and wickd just constantly in awful positions.
Its pretty obvious that the lack of teamplay and communication is their main problem. It became evident vs. Wolves already and this game just now is a confirmation.

Game vs. FNC is kinda a different story because I think S4 FNC is on a whole new and other level than the rest of EU.
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01-15-2014 , 03:16 PM
I just don`t understand how you can be so extremely out of position for a Dragon. I blame mostly Shook for it as he was Top(And because he is the jungler obv), Wickd actually was around Dragon. Then Froggen just decided to leave midlane and walk to Top changing his mind midways while SHC gets a free Dragon.
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01-15-2014 , 03:16 PM
Wickd his champ pool is lackluster like he hasn't played anything else besides 2 seasons ago....Renekton & Malphite & Irelia but it's complete **** now. Froggen isn't the same as he used to be. Tabzz & shook are good, but man this team is a let down.
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01-15-2014 , 03:23 PM
A big problem I'm noticing in a lot of the 'first generation' players is that they are used to having a dramatic skill advantage over their opponents. Like Doublelift was a ****ing god in s2 in NA, but who was he facing? Chaox a guy who is basically out of the competitive scene, qtpie before he was good, and basically a bunch of scrub, semi-pros. Now EVERY LCS player is professional so the talent gap is closing and these first generation players just aren't adapting, because they are used to being more talented or having better mechanics than their opposition.

A notable exception is fnatic, who had 4 members at the season 1 final, but still remain a world class team.
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01-15-2014 , 03:56 PM
Fnatic so good
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01-15-2014 , 04:05 PM
FNC botlane immortal.

edit: Is immortal the right word?
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01-15-2014 , 04:06 PM
stand up when you shake hands unmannered noobs
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01-15-2014 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DatFirefly
A big problem I'm noticing in a lot of the 'first generation' players is that they are used to having a dramatic skill advantage over their opponents. Like Doublelift was a ****ing god in s2 in NA, but who was he facing? Chaox a guy who is basically out of the competitive scene, qtpie before he was good, and basically a bunch of scrub, semi-pros. Now EVERY LCS player is professional so the talent gap is closing and these first generation players just aren't adapting, because they are used to being more talented or having better mechanics than their opposition.

A notable exception is fnatic, who had 4 members at the season 1 final, but still remain a world class team.
yeah, Alliance has plenty of time to get **** together since the 7/8 teams are gonna be awful so while not ideal they only need to stay in 6th to get into playoffs

also are NA/EU doing the same spring split doesn't matter at all for worlds like last year? if so they can just use this split to just work out the kinks and make the run next split when it counts
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01-15-2014 , 06:36 PM
SK vs. CW was high comedy. Might as well have been called 'how not to close out a League of Legends game'
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01-15-2014 , 06:50 PM
Why do Euro supports hate gp10? Nearly all of them are going dorans into sightstone before medallion. Nyph went for a ****ing haunting guise first
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01-15-2014 , 07:30 PM
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Why do Euro supports hate gp10? Nearly all of them are going dorans into sightstone before medallion. Nyph went for a ****ing haunting guise first
That is going to happen in 95% of games - remember that sightstone is essentially a gp10 item too (it gives free wards instead of gold)

Dorans -> sightstone -> talisman is a pretty standard pro level support build.
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01-15-2014 , 08:42 PM
I have written it somewhere else but I just can`t imagine that the nashequibilirium is to go Dorans. If you try to get a 2 v 1 lane you should`ve the edge going a gp10 item obviously.

The first couple times you prolly could just send your botlane top and be in the 2v1 lane anyways and then later you can just be unexploitable by using a watch or something to decide if you go bot or Top.

Maybe I use too much of a pokerapproach tho.
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01-15-2014 , 08:45 PM
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That is going to happen in 95% of games - remember that sightstone is essentially a gp10 item too (it gives free wards instead of gold)

Dorans -> sightstone -> talisman is a pretty standard pro level support build.
Are they using gp quints though?
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01-15-2014 , 09:11 PM
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That is going to happen in 95% of games - remember that sightstone is essentially a gp10 item too (it gives free wards instead of gold)

Dorans -> sightstone -> talisman is a pretty standard pro level support build.
Kinda you absolutely need to get 2v2 otherwise you fall super far behind coin starts

In ogn it got pretty ugly if you start doran and then the other team forces 2v1s

Eu hasn't been punishing or even trying so its been 2x dorans

I think coin and relic are better in most games
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