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03-25-2014 , 04:18 PM
morde has bad waveclear?
03-25-2014 , 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nonfiction
morde has bad waveclear?
he wont be able to "waveclear" turrets

Get in range = get **** on
03-25-2014 , 11:49 PM
err Rumble shouldn't give heimer any problems unless rumble can keep heimer in his ultie for a long time. Heimer gets to stand his ground cus he has a stun to use when rumble closes in and turrets to weave around so it gets hard for rumble to land his e's without getting reharrassed right back. That matchup is probably one of the most balanced in the game right now imo and it is 100% skill in this match up.

edit- From the general consensus in this thread, heimer would rush zhonyas so he'll be able to wait out Rumble's ultimate? that on top of superior harass and farming potential I think I give this match to heimerdinger

Last edited by litlebullet; 03-25-2014 at 11:58 PM.
03-26-2014 , 12:12 AM
One more thing to add though. Heimer will probably pushing Rumble to his tower early so if Rumble's jungler can capitalize on that and get some good ganks in lv 3-4 I think that's Rumble's best bet. Rumble doesn't farm well under tower either so if he can get kills in the worst part of the matchup for him he should stomp. I'm tired though so i might just be talking out of my ass but I think this is about right
03-26-2014 , 03:31 PM
How do you build lulu mid, what skill do you cap first? I have never played him, except in aram.
03-26-2014 , 05:31 PM
Waarom coach je niet voor elo-boost.neto?!

Why don't you apply to coach for elo-boost.net?!
You can make between 10 & 20€p/h there.


What are your thoughts on dodging?!
Player A comes in your game chat goes like this:

Omfg this (player B) has been feeding like a ****** last game he ruined my last game
Player B: *** you time to troll

Player A Picks eve and calls for support
Players B Picks naut top

You?!


Btw als je Nl spreekt add Jônathan
03-26-2014 , 06:24 PM
@ Littlebullet: saying Rumble vs Heimerdinger is a balanced match-up makes me crinch....

@ Lulu: I used to build athene's > lich bane, but lich bane is nerfed so yeah....

Then usually proceed zhonyas deathcap or void.

@ John, you can add Future Feyd

I would do elo boosting if people would actually pay first instead of trying to scam, but nobody does that so I'm not even going to bother offering services.

Besides, elo boosting is useless for the buyer since Leagues and Divisions are there for a reason... If you are stuck in Silver V and can't get to gold, elo boosting is not the option. Elo hell is made up by people who never try to improve from their own mistakes.
03-26-2014 , 06:50 PM
who do you think has the upper hand in the match?
fwiw I thought it was a balanced matchup at first instinct but I decided Heimer should win.
03-26-2014 , 07:09 PM
What are your thoughts on dodging?!
Player A comes in your game chat goes like this:

Omfg this (player B) has been feeding like a ****** last game he ruined my last game
Player B: *** you time to troll

Player A Picks eve and calls for support
Players B Picks naut top

You?!
03-26-2014 , 07:19 PM
lol
03-26-2014 , 07:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by litlebullet
who do you think has the upper hand in the match?
fwiw I thought it was a balanced matchup at first instinct but I decided Heimer should win.
if equal skill heimer wins 100%, I have absolutely no doubts,rumble comes close and he'll get wrecked because its easy to hit your stun. Zhonya's is a really good (2nd item) in this case yeah.

And ofcourse heimer CAN get wrecked by the jungler... but oh boy I had so many times that I got a solo double kill when they gank in DIAMOND.

@ Dodging: dodging is sad imo, I never dodged and never will, even if I get flame in lobby, there is a mute button for a reason. Even when they trollpick, I'll stay.
03-26-2014 , 09:20 PM
I think you're making a mistake never dodging. You get one -3 LP game a day which you should always take advantage of.

What summoners do you use with Heimer? I've been doing TP flash a lot and think it's OK for top, but I'm finding I really wish I had ignite when I'm playing vs melee.

If mid, I'm thinking ignite, barrier, or exhaust would be better than TP.
03-26-2014 , 09:39 PM
Ogn went athenes cap void iirc

Seems like a standard route now, lichbane is still pretty good and lulu's insane utilty scales so well goimg to be sad when she gets nerfed
03-27-2014 , 08:09 PM
Trying to learn Darius. What are his most used combos other than Q Harras early? And how do you (most effectively) build stacks for the ult?

Also flash ignite or flash ghost?
03-27-2014 , 09:28 PM
Darius is pretty simple in lane. Q harass whenever you get an opportunity, his main combo is E -> W -> Auto -> Q when as they run away. If they're in range you can go Q before your grab as well and it should be off cd in time to get them twice in 1 exchange.
03-28-2014 , 07:17 PM
Darius is just a one trick pony..

Also summoners can be whatever you want, but if they have alot slows you definitly don't want to take ghost..
04-03-2014 , 03:59 AM
I started streaming again btw: twitch.tv/futurefeyd
04-03-2014 , 05:02 AM
^ will def watch tomorrow and thanks or the tips.

I've been playing too many champs, so trying to stick to Darius top/jungle. Kaylee Mid. Alistar/Thresh supp. Twitch ADC.

I'd say 9/10 of my games are supp or top by default.
04-03-2014 , 05:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Re3el_Pr1de
^ will def watch tomorrow and thanks or the tips.

I've been playing too many champs, so trying to stick to Darius top/jungle. Kaylee Mid. Alistar/Thresh supp. Twitch ADC.

I'd say 9/10 of my games are supp or top by default.
Playing too many champs is better IMO than sticking to one champ for top and one champ for mid, what if you get countered, or someone picked a counter before you? It's always to have alternatives. Sticking to your one-trick-pony's is OKAY, aslong you have alternatives. So keep playing "too many" champs, kudos!

Will stream tonight 19.00 CEST+2 (7 hours after this post)
04-04-2014 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Avizura
Playing too many champs is better IMO than sticking to one champ for top and one champ for mid, what if you get countered, or someone picked a counter before you? It's always to have alternatives. Sticking to your one-trick-pony's is OKAY, aslong you have alternatives. So keep playing "too many" champs, kudos!

Will stream tonight 19.00 CEST+2 (7 hours after this post)
Strongly disagree. Better to be a one trick pony and be really good at a particular champion than branch out too much and don't learn any role or champion properly. Counterpicks are extremely overrated in lower levels - most players aren't even going to be capable of exploiting a favorable matchup.

Additionally, within Rebel's five champion pool he has a backup for every role. Let's say he focuses on trying to get top or support every game, as he said he gets those 90% of the time. He makes Darius and Thresh (or Alistar) as his two main champions. He's likely going to get top or support and get to play Darius or Thresh the majority of the time (likely >60%, possibly as much as 85%).

The times he doesn't get his preferred champions will be the minority but let's review his options.

If he gets top and Darius gets picked or banned or he gets a particularly terrible matchup, he can attempt to negotiate for support. If still forced to top, he can play Kayle or Twitch top as his emergency options.

If he gets support and Thresh is unavailable, he can play Alistar or attempt to negotiate for top. Additionally, he can play Kayle support as an emergency option.

If he's unable to secure top or support, he can play one of his primary champions (Darius) in the jungle. If forced to jungle and Darius is unavailable (which is unlikely btw because Darius is not a common pick or ban), he can jungle Kayle, Twitch, or even Alistar.

If he's forced to mid, he can play Kayle or Twitch in an emergency situation.

If he's forced to ADC, he can play Twitch or AD Kayle in an emergency situation.

Obviously some of these scenarios are suboptimal but it should be noted that they are going to be extremely rare situations. I mean, what % of the time is he going to be forced to ADC and then not have Twitch available? Likely less than 0.5% of the time. It's unlikely he's going to have to play ADC more than 5% of the time to begin with. Additionally, he can easily just dodge in any of his emergency situations because the penalty for dodging is extremely minimal.

It is not only quite easy to get away with playing primarily only two champions and having a pool of only five - I'd argue that it is significantly preferable to the alternative of playing more than ten. You will get much better faster through repetition and will learn your preferred roles much better than someone that tries to cover all five.

PM me if you have questions because I don't want to derail Avizura's thread further.

/hijack
04-04-2014 , 06:35 PM
You have a point there, and you are in no way "derailing" my thread.

I just shared my vision on champion pools, and my own strategy is to widen my pool as big as possible to be prepared for every situation.

And honestly, I never played in "lower" leagues before so I don't know about how effective counterpicking actually is. But I can imagine focusong on one-trick pony's being more effective at lower leagues than widening your champion pool.
04-05-2014 , 02:38 AM
At plat +, you can count on your team, and lower then plat u just can't

If u try to make a play your team wont back u , this why u need to pick a champ u can carry solo with.
04-05-2014 , 07:06 AM
Add me: Future Feyd

I'll shoot up some normal games with full man premades
04-05-2014 , 09:32 PM
Just had a game where I start 7-0 on khazix where I was salvaging lanes mostly turning 2-0 bot into 2-2

I had a really hard time with the transition to teamfights, especially in a spot where if I didn't do massive damage the fight would go bad

I tried to dive onto the fed Twitch and hope to 100-0 within ult stealth but I got cc before getting reset

Is there a better gameplan with a flank/mop up secondary engage champ like kha? Its possible I messed the mechanics up and being that far ahead means delete AD and jump away easy

Lvl1 evolved ult and jump

Ult jump in auto q w ult auto ult auto q is the progression right

Or is it better to jump in then use first ult?
04-07-2014 , 12:17 AM
im not OP, but with kha (unless MEGA fed) you cant jump in and try to 100-0 someone. you need to wait for at least 1 person (usually more) on the enemy team to get low, and then you can jump in and get resets. no matter how squishy your target is, having to 100-0 gives the enemy team more than enough time to hard cc you and blow you up (remember: you're squishy too!)

      
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