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07-25-2013 , 02:32 PM
3rd game with unlocked was best yet, didn't use the spacebar and went EZ7-3-3 with adc while losing at 20 14-20.
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07-25-2013 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by looshle
I play w my left thumb on space bar, holding it centers you. It's impossible to be any good with camera locked in

Last edited by ALLTheCookies; 07-25-2013 at 02:44 PM. Reason: Dyrus used to play locked
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07-25-2013 , 03:05 PM
I sorta use the same method, i play unlocked but if i need to center suddenly, ill jsut tap spacebar

highly reccomend to start playing with unocked. you will appreciate it by level 15 let alone level 30
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07-25-2013 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Quagmyer
I sorta use the same method, i play unlocked but if i need to center suddenly, ill jsut tap spacebar

highly reccomend to start playing with unocked. you will appreciate it by level 15 let alone level 30
part of my problem is I waited til 30 to start unlocking and now I am super used to playing locked, so it is a big adjustment.
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07-25-2013 , 03:41 PM
i started with locked.. and every time i was purple i got crushed.
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07-25-2013 , 03:56 PM
I think default mode is unlocked, idk how people end up starting with locked camera
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07-25-2013 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
I think default mode is unlocked, idk how people end up starting with locked camera
I didn't even know you could unlock until I started watching streams, maybe they changed defaults at some point.
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07-25-2013 , 04:53 PM
My default was def locked. I would have loved to have learned unlocked.
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07-25-2013 , 07:17 PM
My default was locked too but I thought it was pretty ****ty that I couldn't move around and snap turned it off. Seems like a right pain to play that way.
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07-25-2013 , 07:35 PM
mine has never been locked as far as i can remember
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07-25-2013 , 07:43 PM
When I started last April, my game default was locked.
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07-25-2013 , 07:44 PM
think i first played last july-ish?
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07-26-2013 , 01:05 PM
could have been based on what you pressed when it asked you how experienced you were..
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07-26-2013 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
could have been based on what you pressed when it asked you how experienced you were..
This might be the answer. I started locked as well and I picked whatever the 'some experience with RTS' option was.
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07-27-2013 , 07:31 PM
I'm level 24 now, have the transition behind me, but now falling intro trap of tryin way too many champs. I'm best with top/mid AP Gragas, or "support"/tank Xin.

Problem is (I don't mind) I'm filling in the last called role in drafts which is usually support or jungle, so trying to learn others. I'm absolute garbage at jungle, even with Nunu.
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07-30-2013 , 08:23 AM
So I'm noticing that I have a lot of trouble laning against champs with aggressive engage. Say I'm laning vs. Fiora or Vi, I find that I either need to hope for an early first blood and get ahead or I end up spending the rest of the game trying to catch up and not get caught out. It isn't some much that I always end up losing these match ups as it is that I feel like I don't have much control over then 1-6, which is how I get myself into bad spots. If I get an edge I can usually exploit it, but I think I end up having to take too many risks to get ahead in the first place. Any advice on getting better at early game in general?
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07-30-2013 , 10:39 AM
who are you playing, every champion has a specific power curve.

riven is a go in all the time, rumble is a wait till 4 then go all in, akali is extremely strong vs melee at lvl 1 and 3 otherwise she hits all her power at 6.

in general you want to push your lane at lvl 1 this lets you be stronger 1vs1 but makes you more vulnerable to jungle ganks. this is exaggerated in a range vs melee matchup, where the entire goal of the ranged player at early lvls should be to push it to the tower
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07-30-2013 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
who are you playing, every champion has a specific power curve.

riven is a go in all the time, rumble is a wait till 4 then go all in, akali is extremely strong vs melee at lvl 1 and 3 otherwise she hits all her power at 6.

in general you want to push your lane at lvl 1 this lets you be stronger 1vs1 but makes you more vulnerable to jungle ganks. this is exaggerated in a range vs melee matchup, where the entire goal of the ranged player at early lvls should be to push it to the tower
I tend to play melee top lane champs, mostly Rumble, Aatrox and Singed lately. I generally like getting a defensive item level 1 like doran's shield/cloth armor/null-magic, but when I'm vs ranged champs with strong early game or champs with good poke I find myself getting chipped down until I cant' do much
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07-30-2013 , 10:54 AM
rumble has a very specific early game best situation. you want the wave to be at even strength, just outside your tower at lvl 4 and then you go beast them taking advantage of the long lane. With singed you hope to god you get to push the lane to their tower early without taking much harrass, once you get past lvl 4-5 its easier and at 6 you are fine. never played aatrox but if you are getting poked push the lane early game, i think aatrox wants the lane perma at enemy tower but not entirely sure.

null magic is a really bad item for a lane start, if you are against magic dmg i'd go some combo pots are long sword and go to town
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07-30-2013 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
rumble has a very specific early game best situation. you want the wave to be at even strength, just outside your tower at lvl 4 and then you go beast them taking advantage of the long lane. With singed you hope to god you get to push the lane to their tower early without taking much harrass, once you get past lvl 4-5 its easier and at 6 you are fine. never played aatrox but if you are getting poked push the lane early game, i think aatrox wants the lane perma at enemy tower but not entirely sure.

null magic is a really bad item for a lane start, if you are against magic dmg i'd go some combo pots are long sword and go to town
Thanks for the help. I rarely take null-magic because most top lanes I see are AD anyway and I like the sustain from doran's shield more, but I'll try out going more aggressive with early items sometimes to see how it works out.

Aatrox has a pretty solid early laning phase cause of his E, the big thing is he has to be able to melee creeps consistently so he can get the life steal and out-sustain. That is why heavy poke/engage champs are hard, they make it difficult to reliably get more life steal than you lose from the poke.
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07-31-2013 , 04:40 AM
I'm level 22 now. Slowing grinding my way up when I can. I just find it hard to play more than a few games in a row because of all the stupid. Like, at this point, why are there games with no jungler? (I'll jungle if no one else calls jungle). I like getting raged at by people that don't know how to play. I gank bot and both enemies die....let's go do dragon? Nope. I shove a lane because one of our guys died and will not get back in time to get the farm anyway....I get yellow ping spammed followed by rage in chat.

Like, my mechanics aren't the best, but I think I have a decent grasp of what needs to happen at certain points in the game. Even if I make mistakes in the heat of the moment, I can look back and say "Oh, this would have been a better play there,"


Anyway, my question is about doing draft vs blind pick normals until I hit 30. I haven't dealt with any of the drafts personally yet. Can someone kinda break it down for me so the first time I go in there, I'm not ******ed? Like, I am always a team player and can probably play any role just as well as another at this point. I obviously want to win every game, but I know it doesn't matter....so should I be "team player" and follow directions if someone wants me to grab a certain champ for them or should I just say F-it and do whatever I want?
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07-31-2013 , 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ReidLockhart
Anyway, my question is about doing draft vs blind pick normals until I hit 30. I haven't dealt with any of the drafts personally yet. Can someone kinda break it down for me so the first time I go in there, I'm not ******ed? Like, I am always a team player and can probably play any role just as well as another at this point. I obviously want to win every game, but I know it doesn't matter....so should I be "team player" and follow directions if someone wants me to grab a certain champ for them or should I just say F-it and do whatever I want?
If you go the F-it way you will most likely have to deal with some kids who will rage/troll because they didnt get the champ or lane they wanted. Also some might be forced to play roles they arent used to and will underperform heavily (usually clueless supports with ****ty champs/builds/no wards).

So, in case you can play any lane and role - which you should if you want to play ranked - its usually best to see what others want to play and then fill in. You can tell them your preference though like "hi team, would prefer mid, thats my best" and hope they play along.

I main support so its pretty rare that I have to play an other role since most dont want to support. However, if we have a premade bot for example I usually tell them that I would rather jungle or mid since top is my worst lane by far.

Also keep in mind that there is a pick order. So, if you are last pick you better be prepared to fill in.
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07-31-2013 , 09:34 AM
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I'm level 22 now. Slowing grinding my way up when I can. I just find it hard to play more than a few games in a row because of all the stupid. Like, at this point, why are there games with no jungler? (I'll jungle if no one else calls jungle).
It's much more difficult to jungle below level 30 without appropriate runes and masteries.

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I like getting raged at by people that don't know how to play. I gank bot and both enemies die....let's go do dragon? Nope. I shove a lane because one of our guys died and will not get back in time to get the farm anyway....I get yellow ping spammed followed by rage in chat.
Dragon is worth 1000 gold, you'd have to last hit a lot of minions to make passing it up a good idea. Ragers will yellow ping when you're taking farm from their lane, generally it's correct to ignore them.

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Anyway, my question is about doing draft vs blind pick normals until I hit 30. I haven't dealt with any of the drafts personally yet. Can someone kinda break it down for me so the first time I go in there, I'm not ******ed? Like, I am always a team player and can probably play any role just as well as another at this point. I obviously want to win every game, but I know it doesn't matter....so should I be "team player" and follow directions if someone wants me to grab a certain champ for them or should I just say F-it and do whatever I want?
Generally you're going to find you're better at some role than another, and I recommend calling that role. If someone else demands it, then fill. If you really can't identify a role you're better at, then sure fill, but I've never seen someone call fill that was legitimately as good an adc as they were a support. Unless you own a lot of champs, I wouldn't advise taking a champion for anyone else, and for the love of god, never ever play a champion because others are telling you to if you haven't played the champion. e.g. If Amumu is open and everyone is telling you how op he is, do not select him for that reason.
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07-31-2013 , 10:09 AM
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It's much more difficult to jungle below level 30 without appropriate runes and masteries.

I'm at all Teir 3 runes for what runs I can fill in for my jungle page (non-MP), so it's not the end of the world. It's a little slower than what it'll be at level 30 I'm sure and my ganks aren't as strong, but I'm getting better with each game with awareness and mechanics.

Dragon is worth 1000 gold, you'd have to last hit a lot of minions to make passing it up a good idea. Ragers will yellow ping when you're taking farm from their lane, generally it's correct to ignore them.

This is good news. "Ban Khaz'ix!" has been my favorite line so far in response to what I feel is correct play.

Generally you're going to find you're better at some role than another, and I recommend calling that role. If someone else demands it, then fill. If you really can't identify a role you're better at, then sure fill, but I've never seen someone call fill that was legitimately as good an adc as they were a support. Unless you own a lot of champs, I wouldn't advise taking a champion for anyone else, and for the love of god, never ever play a champion because others are telling you to if you haven't played the champion. e.g. If Amumu is open and everyone is telling you how op he is, do not select him for that reason.


Bold is mine. Thank you for the tips. Glad to see I'm not as big a mouth breather as I thought =P
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07-31-2013 , 11:08 AM
just for the record if your laner wont be back in time be sure to shove and not just farm so your laner doesnt have to deal with a pushed up lane (:
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