I play a ton of these these days. What items do you guys like to start on Gragas or Blitz? Haven't found a start for them I particularly loved.

I play Gragas the same way I play most APs on Aram. Start chalice, boots, and potions and go for Athene's as your first item. You lose some damage this way, but you can spam the hell out of your spells.

For Blitz, you might start tear and try for a tanky mana build with frozen heart, sheen-->iceborn and finishing the tear (not sure which one is better, AA or MM)

Random ARAM tips:
Always get a bulwark on your team, and you should build it if you are the best person to get it on and no one else is getting it. I usually rush it in most cases, just gives a huge boost to your team if you have it and the other team doesn't.

Also please never build gp5 on anyone, I cry whenever I see people starting with like, philo, or even worse building it 5+ mins into the game. Like not only does it suck but it might not even repay itself by the time the game ends.

Same reason chalice is better than tear on a lot of champs besides those that can stack tear super fast.

catalyst on blitz, tear is impossible to stack and you die way easier. catalyst you get the mana right off the bat + hp + regen on level up.

I like a catalyst/potions start on Gragas, I also start Morg with the same

also ill probly be playing arams for the next 4 hours if anyone wants to join

I do Chalice + Boots + pots on both. I usually finish Athene's on Gragas and just sit on the chalice on Blitz and build tanky from there.

These are my major starts:

1)Chalice/Tear + Boots + pots - It's usually Chalice unless it's someone who stacks Tear quickly.

2)2x Doran's Rings + Boots + pots - Misc APs that I don't build mana items on (TF, AP Yi).

3)Boots + Kindlegem + pots - My opening for tanky champs (except Singed where I do Tear). I almost always buy Spirit of the Ancient Golem since I think that item is stupidly good, but you could also go Spirit Visage (another good item). Though often times, I find myself getting them both anyway.

What do people do on AD carries? I'm undecided between 2x Doran's or Vamp Scepter.

Yeah, I like the idea of catalyst on Gragas.

I do also like chalice into athenes for CDR.

I generally build catalyst/ Kage's into Morellonomicon on Blitz, CDR boots or Sorc boots, deathcap, abyssal, zhonya, lichbane

You just melt people in team fights with ult

I usually decide on dorans vs vamp scepter depending on range and safety. Aura items in general are extremely good in Arams, If I'm a tanky champ I usually try and get as many as I can.

What are some mistakes you guys see that people might not realize they are doing? I feel the biggest one I see is people not dying when they are low HP. Always gets me annoyed when someone on my team gets very low with no sustain, and for the next few minutes plays extremely defensive making it almost a 4v5 for the duration. I would say I have won a bunch because we got people to 100hp, and then they sat in the back doing nothing while we took turrets and got picks.

If I get a champ that I've never played, I just build tank, unless it's a carry.

common mistakes:

not dying (prefer by execution), not taking health packs, getting poked to death without ever initiating, not having an aegis/bulwark, using flash as a summoner spell

flash is pretty bad since if you flash away from something that would have killed you, now what? it's not like you can heal up. you're just worthless sitting around at 25 hp. it is still good on some champs like fiddle, annie, etc.

You use flash to avoid spells that will get you killed. You should have tons of potions anyways.

Taric about to stun you? Flash into brush.

Mumu just flashed to ult you? Flash out

I generally run flash/barrier. I rarely don't run flash. It has so many uses for defensive and offensive things.

flash is good if you only use it to kill or flash away with 60%+ hp

Also that new anti-poke item is GODLY especially against heavy ap

That orb is so sick. Mix it with locket/bulwark/visage and you cannot die.

Build that the horn and bulwark and leeroy jenkins in every 20secs

flash is good for getting people to over commit when ur low and tunnel visioning right into your teammates.

I visioned your mom's tunnel?

1v1 for rolls?

What we doing!

anyone have a champion they seem to get a lot more often?
it seems I get Malphite every 5-6 games and I own 50ish champions

I have only got Jayce one ****ing time

I get Chogath and Quinn a lot. A lot a lot a lot.

I own like near 70 champs

I got Zac three times in a six game run last week. But I only own about 35 champions, so there's going to be a lot of repeating. I wish I got Ziggs more though, since not only is he OP in ARAM, he's my favorite champion. I think I've only gotten him once in over 100 games.

they looooove giving me skarner and shyvana in arams

been playing a lot of these, as my stolen wifi is not quite up to speeds for a reg game..

intensely satisfying to stealth past everyone on twitch and take out the inhib and nexus which were open late in the game