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Old 05-30-2019, 11:01 PM   #1
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Pineapple (OFC - Open Face Chinese)

I was wondering if anyone had any links they could share for Pineapple specific strategy? I have done some Googling and reading but feel I haven't come across that much good material. Also, what is the best Pineapple bot out there for purchase/learning? Thanks.
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:20 PM   #2
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Re: Pineapple (OFC - Open Face Chinese)

I am not an expert but have played quite a bit casually so below are my take aways, though, you have probably heard these before.

Don't foul
Don't get scooped
Play for fantasy land

Understand the bonus structure for the game you're playing so you can better maximize your payout. New players tend to underestimate the payouts for the top and tend to favor not fouling over maximizing bonuses etc.

Also remember that your backrow sets the limit on the strength of your middle and top. If you limit yourself early in the back you can make some awkward situations later in the hand or consistently get beat for middle and top.
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Old 06-03-2019, 01:33 PM   #3
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Re: Pineapple (OFC - Open Face Chinese)

I'd echo what just_grindin says -- I tend to be somewhat aggressive in playing for FL -- depending on your exact variations, FL EV tends to be worth around 2.5-3x as much as a scoop with no bonuses, plus the bonuses you earn in getting there, so getting scooped occasionally to risk getting to FL is worth it.

I answered an OFC problem a couple weeks ago on here, and I'd be happy to post some thinking if you have specific spots you want to ask about.
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Old 06-04-2019, 04:49 PM   #4
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Re: Pineapple (OFC - Open Face Chinese)

I don't need the basics. It seems to me there has to be a program out there that is _the_ go to program and I would have thought there were more in depth articles covering everything under the sun by now. Googling I was able to find a couple bots but I wanted to be sure they were worth it before investing. I assumed someone here would know. Also the same with articles, I've googled but what I've found is relatively lame.
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Old 06-04-2019, 05:02 PM   #5
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Re: Pineapple (OFC - Open Face Chinese)

I mean what advanced theory are you expecting? It's a relatively simple game with simple math and unlike most poker there is always showdown and hand comparisons so there's not much strategy.
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Old 06-06-2019, 05:08 AM   #6
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Re: Pineapple (OFC - Open Face Chinese)

knowing all the various bonuses is important especially for fantasy land decisions. generally you want to make the strongest hand on the bottom but sometimes you should deviate, especially to put a high pair up top for the bonus (usually when you have a pretty mediocre fantasyland holding). of course if you can put quads + on the bottom you always do that since it gets you another fantasyland.
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Old 06-08-2019, 05:36 PM   #7
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Re: Pineapple (OFC - Open Face Chinese)

Is there any consensus on the average value of a fantasy-hand? I can't seem to find anyone that's actually done any calculations.
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Old 12-19-2019, 08:52 AM   #8
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Is there any consensus on the average value of a fantasy-hand? I can't seem to find anyone that's actually done any calculations.
It depends heavily on OFC variant - regular or progressive, if there are jokers in play or not.
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Old 12-19-2019, 12:37 PM   #9
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What is regular vs progressive?
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Old 01-03-2020, 07:13 AM   #10
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What is regular vs progressive?
As far as I understand it - the number of cards you enter re-fantasy with.
For regular you enter with 14 cards always
For progressive - as many as you entered FL with - 14/15/16/17 for QQ/KK/AA/trips

Add 2 jokers to the mix and things really do explode.
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Old 03-10-2021, 08:26 AM   #11
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Re: Pineapple (OFC - Open Face Chinese)

Hi everyone,

I have just published an OFC FantasyLand Solver at https://ofccalculator.com If any of you play OFC, please do try it and give feedback ( good or bad :P ).

Thanks
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Old 03-10-2021, 08:52 AM   #12
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Hi everyone,

I have just published an OFC FantasyLand Solver at https://ofccalculator.com If any of you play OFC, please do try it and give feedback ( good or bad :P ).

Thanks
It looks like this is simply a solver for when in FL: it's a fairly simple problem that you are solving here. I would love some way to evaluate the EV of choosing different options during the regular play of a hand

Also, I can't work out how to change the cards. Changing suit changes every card to the suit we choose. What am I missing?

And changing the number of FL cards seems to do nothing.
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Old 03-10-2021, 09:16 AM   #13
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Re: Pineapple (OFC - Open Face Chinese)

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Hi everyone,

I have just published an OFC FantasyLand Solver at https://ofccalculator.com If any of you play OFC, please do try it and give feedback ( good or bad :P ).

Thanks
interesting stuff, i think it'd be easier to input if you didn't have rotate between suits but all cards were laid out from the start

obviously could be very wrong about that assumption though, if i ever get back into ofc i'll spend some time here
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Old 03-24-2021, 04:54 AM   #14
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It looks like this is simply a solver for when in FL: it's a fairly simple problem that you are solving here. I would love some way to evaluate the EV of choosing different options during the regular play of a hand

Also, I can't work out how to change the cards. Changing suit changes every card to the suit we choose. What am I missing?

And changing the number of FL cards seems to do nothing.
Hey thanks for trying.

1. Changing number of FL cards would allow you to select those many number of cards as there are different types of Fantasylands with 14 to 17 cards. I could achieve it without having to explicitly select the number of cards to choose, but then it is more prone to human errors as one wouldnt know how many cards one has selected and so on. Currently when you select more cards, it alerts.

2. How to change cards? You can select a card or deselect it. Selecting makes it a little blurr, deselecting makes it visible again. And by changing suits, you can then select cards of those suits.

3. Yes I agree solving Fantasyland is a fairly easy problem. But more often than we fail to realise the maximum royalty hands specially in 16/17 card fantasies in a limited time. Also the challenge is to solve it quickly by computers. My solution takes at max a second to come up with the solution. About EV of choosing different options while playing normal OFC hand is the next goal of course.

Thanks again for the feedback
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Old 03-24-2021, 04:56 AM   #15
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interesting stuff, i think it'd be easier to input if you didn't have rotate between suits but all cards were laid out from the start

obviously could be very wrong about that assumption though, if i ever get back into ofc i'll spend some time here
Hey first of all thanks for trying and the feedback. I though initially about showing all the cards at once, but then not only it looked messy but it was a mess of another level in mobile devices, hence this choice. But yes I can give user the option to see all cards at once or grouped by suits. Will try and incorporate.

Thanks for trying and the feedback.
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Old 06-08-2021, 03:34 PM   #16
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Update: Have also launched an android app, https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....ofccalculator would love feedback on this too.

Thanks,
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Old 06-13-2021, 03:02 PM   #17
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Hi everyone,

I have just published an OFC FantasyLand Solver at https://ofccalculator.com If any of you play OFC, please do try it and give feedback ( good or bad :P ).

Thanks
Thanks, no jokers though
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Old 06-15-2021, 08:29 AM   #18
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Re: Pineapple (OFC - Open Face Chinese)

Just played some joker OFC…

What are odds villain makes fantasyland 13x?

Whats the most consecutive fantasyland anyone has ever seen?
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Old 06-21-2021, 09:12 AM   #19
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Re: Pineapple (OFC - Open Face Chinese)

Would anyone mind sharing what site(s) they're playing on that spreads OFC cash games?

Feel free to DM me.
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Old 06-28-2021, 10:55 AM   #20
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Re: Pineapple (OFC - Open Face Chinese)

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Just played some joker OFC…

What are odds villain makes fantasyland 13x?

Whats the most consecutive fantasyland anyone has ever seen?

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Joker OFC 2/Pt. 24 times is the highest I've seen.

I've experienced quite a few 18-20x, but it's rare to see higher because usually the non-fantasy guy is busto by then.
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Old 06-28-2021, 03:58 PM   #21
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Joker OFC 2/Pt. 24 times is the highest I've seen.

I've experienced quite a few 18-20x, but it's rare to see higher because usually the non-fantasy guy is busto by then.
Thats insane!
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Old 06-29-2021, 10:37 AM   #22
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Would anyone mind sharing what site(s) they're playing on that spreads OFC cash games?

Feel free to DM me.
I play daily at Rounder Casino, it is a crypto site with cash games at .01, a point and up. We have a daily 1.1 OFC Pineapple MTT @ 6pm Eastern. I stream when I can at twitch.tv/slipandbleed as a Chip Bandit. If you join Rounder's Discord channel there is a chip trading area for people who want to trade with various $ platforms.
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