how often does this run there and what are the stakes?

Boy, I'm happy you asked.

TD is now being mixed into the 40-80 mix game that runs Wed and Fri. We got 10/20 TD going Wednesday last week. Wednesdays and Fridays are also your best chance of getting the 10/20 game going.

First post ITF in 18 months because I finally got the chance to play draw.

Wish I could tilt people like this.

You have to tell me who that is!

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iron posted ITT!

Nice. I'll be in Chicagoland a couple times soon, I'll make sure it includes a Wednesday. Do mixed games run lower than 40/80? 16/32 is as high as I'd play, and really 10/20 is just right...

8/16 HORSE also runs W,F

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...flips-1298624/

Not my HH but I thought I'd share. From 8-game.



Poker Stars $4/$8 Limit 2-7 Triple Draw Lowball - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Pre Draw: (1.5 SB) Hero is MP with A J J 8 6
UTG raises, Hero folds, CO calls, BTN calls, SB folds, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, CO calls, BTN calls

First Draw: (12.5 SB) (4 players)
BB draws 1, UTG draws 2, CO draws 2, BTN draws 2
BB bets, UTG calls, CO raises, BTN calls, BB 3-bets, UTG folds, CO caps!, BTN calls, BB calls

Second Draw: (12.75 BB) (3 players)
BB draws 1, CO stands pat, BTN draws 2
BB checks, CO bets, BTN calls, BB calls

Third Draw: (15.75 BB) (3 players)
BB draws 2, CO stands pat, BTN draws 2
BB checks, CO bets, BTN calls, BB folds

Final Pot: 17.75 BB
BTN shows 8 7 5 3 2 (Lo: 8,7,5,3,2)
CO shows 5 4 4 4 3 (Lo: three of a kind, Fours)
BTN wins 17.625 BB
(Rake: $1.00)

It should have worked.

Really unlucky on the river vs 2 people drawing 2(LOL btw).

Re Horseshoe: The table prefers to ditch 3draw at 40/80 when we are full at nine players FYI. You will have to come early to play.

Suggest badugi imo.

Badugi is as close to a dead game as a poker game will get, with the majority of mixed gamers ( especially obviously rec players ) preferring Badacey and Baduci.

Knowing the players who play, I would be shocked if Badugi were ever to run, unless the Sarasota B-Squad made some holy trek to our neck of the woods just to **** with us, that is.

I'm all for triple draw, if those guys want to play it. One winner games FTW.

OK, been (am) watching the 150/300 NL 2-7TD action lately on FTP. Can anyone explain a little about what the NL dynamic does to the game? For one, there seems to be a lot more overbetting going on than I would have thought. Is there a reason for this?

What about stack sizes, what kind of influence do they play on what hands you can play in what relative position?

Its a pure gambling game, specially how they play it. Cos you very rarely actually have the odds to draw when it gets potted or overbet.

Lol @Badugi as dead game. Every non-HORSE mix I've seen from online to Aria includes it. Badeucy/Acey I've seen in only a few of the live mixes, never online.

Bjornar, you seem to be implying that they're playing it 'wrong'? I understand your point, and that's the reason that NL/PL badugi is a broken game. However in TDL the draws aren't so far behind, particularly with multiple draws to come. Also the implied odds on a smooth draw can be significant (if that weren't the case, single draw deuce would be a broken game as well). And obv the way to get action when you have it is to make the same bet with draws and snows. I have no idea what optimal sizing looks like, but whatever sizing you use, the other player's strategy starts off kind of simple: take non-folding actions often enough that they're not getting exploited.

IDK, it's certainly been entertaining to watch, durrrr in particular making a lot of wtf plays, like squeezing with 3cds, 3betting sb vs bn with a 4cd, etc. I have no idea what he's thinking; it's not like there's much pure fold equity pre-draw. Maybe it's just durrrr's style to give money away in small pots while trying to set up a situation where he can win a huge one. Couple other hilarious hands:

durrrr squeezes from oop with ~9643, gets hu against panda, 200bbs effective. Bet-calls overbet shove, pats T9643. panda misses, is unhappy in chat, presumably broke something.

Ivey flops a made 7, open-shoves for like 6x pot, gets called by durrrr and Galfond, wins 700bb pot.

Yeah, that last one was amazingly sick. And yeah, I think they are playing it too loose but its much more fun this way. In reality it should be a 2-draw game most of the time because the last draw you very rarely have the correct odds to call. And the betsizing in this game will always be on the higher side so if there is a big confrontation of number 7+ then a lot of money will go in. Frankly, I have no idea why they play it

Yeah I'm sure there have been some bad 3rd draw calls when the other guy was already pat. Still, seems to me that if it's correct never to draw, they must not be snowing enough. Or to put it another way, if you're never drawing, they can snow every time. I'm not sure though; maybe you can defend adequately with flat-pats and semi-bluff raises and don't actually need to ever peel and draw.

As for 'it should be a 2-draw game most of the time', I think that clearly isn't true if you have people firing away unimproved all the time, which is what seems to be happening in these games.

I think this game is a whole lot more complex in bet sizing. Next time you rail the game take some notes and you can see patterns emerge even in small sample sizes.

Err yeah, you're right, I'm definitely not referring to online. I guess I mean as far as 40/80+ live mixed goes.

No lower buyin 2-7 NL Lowball in Wsop this year. I thought it was fairly popular and had a decent turnout, wonder why and how that decision was made.

nsfw (cartoon chicken head cut off)

+1^