Is anyone in this thread regin the $11 HU sngs??

Anyone on here in town/coming down for the Aussie Millions? There are 2 8-game events, one AUD$1100, the other AUD$10,500 (both well beyond my bankroll I'm afraid), and I'm thinking the $1100 field at least should be fairly soft (almost all the Aussies I've ever played against seem worse than average at 8-game at least).

As an aside, does it make the AM2011 more attractive or less attractive (or no effect) now that the AUD is worth pretty much USD$1? I mean, it costs more for accom/general spending money, but you're making more at the tables... I'd guess probably less appealing as you're always wagering the same ratio of money, it's just everything else is more $$$ now.

2-7 SD tourney start in 2h 30min invitation to 2-7 SD regulars only

I cant play, will definitely be up for the next one though. Gl

Expert call?

I guess alternatively I could have patted the J w/ a gutshot draw under it, but still...


PokerStars Game #56177207922: Triple Draw 2-7 Lowball Limit ($0.50/$1.00 USD) - 2011/01/18 22:53:42 ET
Table 'Sirona XVII' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: RobBizzle ($27.80 in chips)
Seat 3: Briz ($17.20 in chips)
Seat 5: wiggs73 ($33.05 in chips)
RobBizzle: posts small blind $0.25
Briz: posts big blind $0.50
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to wiggs73 [2h 3c Kd Ah 4s]
wiggs73: raises $0.50 to $1
RobBizzle: folds
Briz: calls $0.50
*** FIRST DRAW ***
Briz: discards 2 cards
wiggs73: discards 2 cards [Kd Ah]
Dealt to wiggs73 [2h 3c 4s] [3s Qd]
Briz: checks
wiggs73: checks
*** SECOND DRAW ***
Briz: discards 2 cards
wiggs73: discards 2 cards [3s Qd]
Dealt to wiggs73 [2h 3c 4s] [6c Jc]
Briz: checks
wiggs73: bets $1
Briz: calls $1
*** THIRD DRAW ***
Briz: discards 1 card
wiggs73: discards 1 card [Jc]
Dealt to wiggs73 [2h 3c 4s 6c] [5d]
Briz: checks
wiggs73: bets $1
Briz: calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wiggs73: shows [2h 3c 6c 5d 4s] (Lo: a straight, Deuce to Six)
Briz: shows [8d 2d 4c 8h 7h] (Lo: a pair of Eights)
Briz collected $5.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6.25 | Rake $0.30
Seat 1: RobBizzle (small blind) folded before the Draw
Seat 3: Briz (big blind) showed [8d 2d 4c 8h 7h] and won ($5.95) with Lo: a pair of Eights
Seat 5: wiggs73 (button) showed [2h 3c 6c 5d 4s] and lost with Lo: a straight, Deuce to Six

Haha that guy would get my favorite note "do not bluff EVER", and then next time I made a straight I'd bluff anyway and then remember my note and be sad lol

This was unexpected. BTN was sitting with $7500 and claimed to never have played before (and played like it).

Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit 2-7 Triple Draw Lowball - 6 players
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Pre Draw: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with K K K Q J
UTG raises, MP calls, CO folds, BTN calls, SB 3-bets, Hero folds, UTG calls, MP calls, BTN calls

First Draw: (13 SB) (4 players)
SB draws 1, UTG draws 2, MP draws 2, BTN draws 3
SB bets, UTG calls, MP calls, BTN calls

Second Draw: (8.5 BB) (4 players)
SB draws 1, UTG draws 1, MP draws 2, BTN draws 3
SB bets, UTG raises, MP 3-bets, BTN folds, SB folds, UTG folds

Come sweat Shawn at 400/800 8 game.

Also, my home casino is having a 7 game tournament next month. I was all excited until I saw the structure sheet and saw that the NLHE/PLO rounds will have the same blinds as the limit rounds tilt tilt tilt.

Edit: he won the biggest pot I saw him play, so there's that.


Poker Stars $400/$800 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB)
2 folds, BUTCH ACIDY raises, 2 folds, shaundeeb calls

Flop: (4.5 SB) 8 5 6 (2 players)
shaundeeb checks, BUTCH ACIDY bets, shaundeeb raises, BUTCH ACIDY calls

Turn: (4.25 BB) J (2 players)
shaundeeb bets, BUTCH ACIDY calls

River: (6.25 BB) 7 (2 players)
shaundeeb bets, BUTCH ACIDY raises, shaundeeb 3-bets, BUTCH ACIDY folds

Final Pot: 10.25 BB
shaundeeb wins 10.246 BB
(Rake: $3.00)

Can anyone explain this rule? What's it designed to prevent?

2-7 Triple Draw

Grant Levy opened with a raise to 300 and the big blind defended while drawing two as Levy drew one.

With Crown Casino rules stipulating that the blind acts second after the initial raiser, Levy checked and the big blind bet out 150. Levy called as both players drew one before Levy led for 300 with his opponent calling.

Wow that is a terrible rule IMO. I have never heard of that before and hopefully never will. Also why would they make that rule for TD and not hold'em or omaha, or even period?

I tend to lose a lot when I play 4/8 and 5/10 I prob should stop but man they play so bad

I was at aussie millions last year and never heard about such a rule, but I didn't play any triple draw while there. That sure is odd.

Was it this guy?

I used to have several screen shots of this behavious of when I played TDL at UB (back when they were the only game in town.) I saw someone sit with $13,500 at a .5/1 game. I asked them if they were expecting to run bad.

But I can't ever recall seeing this in any other limit games.

I lol'd

Heh, nice. No, wasn't that guy, but kudos to him for presumably being up $18.05 for the session so far.

Aren't the crown casino rules the way draw poker used to be played back in the day (at least according to the Ankeny book)?

Poker Stars $1/$2 Limit 5 Card Draw - 6 players
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Pre Draw: (1.5 SB) Hero is MP with Q Q 5 3 2
UTG folds, Hero calls, CO raises, BTN calls, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls

First Draw: (7.5 SB) (3 players)
Hero draws 1, CO draws 2, BTN draws 2
Hand: Q 7 5 3 2
Hero checks, CO bets, BTN calls, Hero raises, CO folds, BTN calls

There is a guy named DesertFalcon that plays 6-8 tables of .50-1 LO8 with a $1000 per table. Never seen him play higher than $1-2 and nothing but LO8.

On a related note I was playing a guy HU on FTP .50-1 and he threw $10k on the table after I poked him a bit.....

I said, "looks like i'm gonna have a good night."

Interesting, any ideas why they did this? I can imaigine Crown applying some ancient rules to games they never spread.

And what happens if you limp? Positions as normal? How would this adjust people's strategy? Given it looks like you have to play the whole rest of the hand OOP, I think I'd be limping everything and just tightening up my range.

im a noob but is limp call pre good?

and what did BU call with?

I don't really like the limp-call. I think a limp re-raise would be great in this spot though, maybe not at 1/2 but at like 3/6 or 5/10 this would be a great play. Usually if I'm going to open a flush draw I'm going to play it aggressively, the hand needs the fold equity since it only hits like 1 in 5 times.

There was a guy playing 2/4 TD last week with a $1M dollar stack. He had one of those gold jerseyed FTOPs avatars.

Button called with trips

I didn't (open) raise because if it wasn't raised my Queens might have been good... and if it has been raised the raiser would be easy to extract value from at this table making my flush draw easy to fall back on.

I don't see the need to pump in more cash after I get good odds for the draw. Would I be doing this just to re-pop it? this is hard to do OOP and not get called by virtually everything that's not folding to the 3-bet. Can you describe that play a little more with where we are going post-draw with it.

I felt like I played the hand pretty well given the dynamics but I'm willing to hear a different line.

I see the logic, I just rarely open limp and it's not something a lot of good players do. If the hand's not good enough to go in for a raise you should seriously consider folding.

I wouldn't do this play at 1/2, but since I'll occasionally limp strong hands and my opponents know this, I think re-popping in my case or just in general in higher stakes where limping is suspicious is a great play. People are already capping draws all the time at 5/10, but you when see someone limping at like 3/6 it's often suspicious but at 1/2 it's not since everyone limps.

The play itself (open limping pair+flush draw) was made up by a 5 card draw player on these forums afaik. (Who is better and smarter than me.)

This is one of the few spots and tables that I would limp at but either way this was a +EV play for sure. And everybody likes +ev limps so I wanted to share.