That is a far different mindset than your previous post seemed to imply. I could easily see this being entirely correct; I don't know what the line is either, I think two connected, when all of its pair cards are also live, is sufficient.
Your earlier post, at least the way it seemed to me, was suggesting that you wouldn't do something like 86ss/AA/K, which is laughable.
Also, what are you using as the royalty bonus for making fantasyland? Obviously simply giving the player the 7 pt royalty isn't enough. Do you just simulate the next hand and have a way to set normal chinese hands so they maximize their ofc fantasyland value? Or just have a set payout?
I highly recommend doing what I did: Play yourself headsup for a couple hundred, one player in FL, the other not. Record the result. Over 200 hands FL is somewhere between 11 and 13. So obviously I will just add another 11.5 or 12 points when FL is hit. I will continue to refine the number when I get some more time to play myself.
Two pair on bottom ace in middle or is there a better play?
This is such a tough problem, I don't think anyone can give a definitive answer. Here are the front runner options in my personal order of what I think is best:
<-top
/A/kk99
Kk/a/99
A/kk/99
/kk/99a
A/99/kk
99/kk/a
This is the exact problem I plan to solve with my ev calculator, because I think that is the only way to find out the best answer. We are getting close: www.solvingofc.com
My middle was not yet set (got the 8 on 11th street). At first I though he was nuts putting J there, but if u step back and look at it it is actually a good play. If he put it in the middle, the only card that can save him from getting scooped is a Q up top (less and he is scooped, higher he fouls). By putting J up top, he is still drawing the the same Q, except now it give him an extra point plus the royalty bonus.
If he puts the jack below he is drawing extremely thin to not get scooped (needs k/q combo just to have a chance at avoiding the scoop) so may as well go for it.
I'm just shocked he hit it (and I know he isn't cheating). I assume I am >99% to scoop after 11th street.
My middle was not yet set (got the 8 on 11th street). At first I though he was nuts putting J there, but if u step back and look at it it is actually a good play. If he put it in the middle, the only card that can save him from getting scooped is a Q up top (less and he is scooped, higher he fouls). By putting J up top, he is still drawing the the same Q, except now it give him an extra point plus the royalty bonus.
If he puts the jack below he is drawing extremely thin to not get scooped (needs k/q combo just to have a chance at avoiding the scoop) so may as well go for it.
I'm just shocked he hit it (and I know he isn't cheating). I assume I am >99% to scoop after 11th street.
I'm wondering how he ended up with the 9 on the bottom.
I understand the consistency of having middle royalties 2x the back, I feel like scoring 4 pts for a straight in the middle makes little sense, as it's substantially harder and usually riskier than making a flush or full house in the back. Also 2pts for trips in the middle seems too low. I would suggest at least 3pts for trips and 6 pts for straights.