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11-12-2015 , 04:18 PM
I tend to do aa2 mid 77 bottom but 772 bottom probably correct

Bottom flush draw middle other two

Kd5d2h
As3s
Not sure at all
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11-12-2015 , 10:58 PM
I like:
_ / AA / 772
_ / T5 / J66
K / A / 235 (I like it although I hate it, have to idea what should be played here)
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11-12-2015 , 11:24 PM
I don't like 772 bottom. You're first to act so put the deuce in middle with the aces. If you see a deuce in their opening set you're in even more trouble because deuces are usually hidden cards as people tend to throw them out so you don't really know how live you are typically with a deuce
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11-18-2015 , 06:34 AM
Add me on pineapple app if you are looking for 1-10 a point action. Username is relaxursoul. I will post if you are a reputable member.
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11-20-2015 , 05:32 AM
On a game of Wild Pineapple, how much is 5 of a kind worth?
I only saw 1 app with this version and they put it at 35 point.
Me and my friends have been playing with 35 points because we just followed the app, but I personally think it is too much. What do you guys think?
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12-22-2015 , 04:31 AM
Hi,

What bankroll management did you use for play pineapple ? and classic OFC ? HU, 3-handed or 4-handed that change something for the BRM ?

Ty.
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12-22-2015 , 04:05 PM
I am a newbie. Completely lost with this start. Help please. Pineapple - it goes without saying.

Opp

IIIIIIIVVstreet/box
75    middle
393    back

Ме - 9Q75K
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12-22-2015 , 04:31 PM
I'd probably go Q9 bottom, 75 middle, K top, definitely if it is KK+, and even if FL is QQ+. Alternatives are awkward, especially with a 7, 5 and 9 out on opp side.
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12-22-2015 , 06:33 PM
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12-24-2015 , 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bandidas
Hi,

What bankroll management did you use for play pineapple ? and classic OFC ? HU, 3-handed or 4-handed that change something for the BRM ?

Ty.


Nobody ?
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12-28-2015 , 09:03 PM
hu pineapple somewhere around 3,000 pts, 3-max 10,000pts

barely anyone plays classic ofc
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12-30-2015 , 01:29 PM
Hey guys,

Pretty new to this game, feels like i have a lot of things to figure out... I'm playing almost only progressive (qq-14 kk-15 aa-16).

I'm playing hu vs a friend and we seem to have different approaches to small pairs on the first 5 cards. Let's say they are 3 3 J T A rainbow. He would always set this A / 3 3 / J T to mantain small pairs middle / big pairs back... my approach is A / T / 3 3 J, don't know how to study this but my intuition says having the 2 extra outs for trips/ fh must be worth something? Is this correct? Is there a case where playing 3 3 middle is correct except when 3's are not live? Also, does one of the sets maximize chances for FL?

Ty

Last edited by Bize; 12-30-2015 at 01:35 PM.
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01-01-2016 , 12:22 PM
Hi Guys! Is this game completely solved or not?
Is it worth to play it for money in higher stakes or those guys there have some kind of software for the game or some kind of "solution" ? Thanks
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01-09-2016 , 06:38 PM
Hi guys,

days ago I opened the thread "Open Face Chinese economy questions", here on the draw and other poker forum. This is the link:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/21...tions-1578650/


I'd appreciate very much if any of you could answear to any of those questions, thanks a lot.
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01-16-2016 , 05:40 AM
Hi, I have a strategy question.

See image in the link at the bottom. What do you do here? This is OFC/P, QQ goes to FL.

I have not seen any 2, 3, 6, J or 10 in my previous discards.

Obviously I could make the middle straight and there are four J or 10 to make the full below. Or I could dump the cards at top and bottom and try to make at least two pair in the middle.

Ignoring any strategy based on the order of how the cards came out, statistically, what is the best play?

Please prove your answer mathematically. Thanks.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Q...ew?usp=sharing

My calculated solution:
on the last card:
P(J or 10) = 0.395
P(at least 2 of {2,3,6}) = 0.605

value of hitting my hand:
if I choose a straight in middle:
assume I scoop: 6, fh bottom: 6, straight middle: 4, AA top: 9 = 25.
if I choose at least 2 pr in middle
assume I lose 2 row: -1, AA top: 9 = 8

E[Jor10] = 0.395 * 25 = 9.88
E[2pr middle] = 0.605 * 8 = 4.84

Now, you have to include the value of going to fantasy land even if my points were lower on the main hand.
So, what is the expected number of points from a FL hand in QQ?
If it is > 5 than I should go for 2 pr in middle, else I should go for Jor10 at bottom.

Last edited by unknownone; 01-16-2016 at 06:00 AM.
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01-17-2016 , 08:25 AM
How do you get this
>>P(at least 2 of {2,3,6}) = 0.605 ??

For me it's very far from the truth. I don't know the right math but according to the well known POFC tables for inderect outs P(at least 2 of {3,6}) = 0.07 ( to hit 3 and 3 outs at once) and for rough estimation you could just add probability of hitting 2 and (6 or 3) at once. So to hit 2 and 6 outs at once. It is 9%. Overall 16%.

And so answer is very obvious for me -> take straight right now.
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01-17-2016 , 10:27 PM
Yes I was calculating P(at least 2 of {2,3,6}) incorrectly. See thread here where I calculate it at 0.288.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...n-ofc-1582031/
Then putting a straight in the middle is the correct choice and draw for the J or 10.

I am not sure about the calculation of P(at least 2 of {2,3,6}). Basically the question is, you have 27 unseen cards, and 8 outs, at least two of which you have to make on a draw of 3 cards. How do you calculate this probability?
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01-18-2016 , 05:09 AM
Partly answerd in the Probability forum

Last edited by Fold&Forget; 01-18-2016 at 05:33 AM.
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02-18-2016 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by unknownone
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Are you really want to calculate all this probabilities?


If you use calculator from pinecone4.com you will find that hand with straight in middle is better on about 10 points...
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02-18-2016 , 06:19 AM
Guys, what app are you using to play?
I'm on Android, and would like an app that allows me to play vs 2 friends and not just random online players.
Our main game is Wild Pineapple, so if it has that, it would be great.

Currently, we are using OFC Poker by Corvid, but can only play 1v1.
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02-18-2016 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by vruuuuk
Guys, what app are you using to play?
I'm on Android, and would like an app that allows me to play vs 2 friends and not just random online players.
Our main game is Wild Pineapple, so if it has that, it would be great.

Currently, we are using OFC Poker by Corvid, but can only play 1v1.
Oye is the best I've found on Android

Sent from my SM-N910P using 2+2 Forums
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02-18-2016 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by angel zera
New to the game.

Opening 5 question: Ks Kd Qc Jc 2h

First to act. Thoughts?
Hi.
I found that many people find best variant is
Q
KK2
J

It's almost right. But this one is bit better:

Q
KKJ
2

Last edited by Tomich; 02-18-2016 at 11:56 PM.
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02-19-2016 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by vruuuuk
Guys, what app are you using to play?
I'm on Android, and would like an app that allows me to play vs 2 friends and not just random online players.
Our main game is Wild Pineapple, so if it has that, it would be great.

Currently, we are using OFC Poker by Corvid, but can only play 1v1.
For standard Pineapple without wild cards you could use www.fulpotpoker.com
there is an android version for this room and you could make private tables with passwords. Rake is 3% for 3 max tables, but you could play super cheаp with friends (like 0,01 cent).
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02-19-2016 , 02:48 AM
BTW They try to say "play money poker site", but as you could purchase and sell their chips for real money, and limits vary from super cheap up to rather high, I don't believe them
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02-25-2016 , 05:08 AM
regarding fulpot, I would recommend against player there for any significant stakes now. Many affiliates have had cashout/liquidity problems in the past 6 months. There is also plenty of collusion there for sure.


the games were great on there at the beginning though ;( if anyone knows of a new site for ofc send me a PM plz
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