At WSOP they have a table stakes button and an out of pocket button. If you are playing table stakes and your first example happens then you can only win what you started the hand with because it IS an extension of the hand.

Thanks that what I tought the short stack procedures on Tonybet is just clueless right now. Like with 4 units you can endup with 36 units after the hand in you make a FL vs 2 opps (win 4+4, you start the FL with 12 and can win 12+12). If you double up there should be no Fantasyland for you since you already won the maximum that was possible on this hand. However the site is working well so i guess they will update soon.

I guess in B&M your shortstack pts are compared to only one opps and the leftover is compared to the other guy.

EX I start with 8pts and i win 2 or lose 2 (vs first player) so 6 leftover is compared to player 2 ?

What phone app are you guys playing on?

What is the difference between "standard 1-6" rules and "standard 2-4" rules?

Bump. No money in OFC, everyone's disappeared.

Seriously though can any lurking vets take a couple of minutes to help out a newb? Cheers

I've been doing well on an online site. Not sure if I can talk about it here but PM me for details. It's juicyyyyyyyyy

Are there any Skype groups dedicated to Pineapple start? I am a newb but I am very interested in learning to play well. Please PM if me you are a part of one and would like a new member.

Also, if anyone is interested in forming one, PM me.

anyone playing at the Rio the past few weeks? i played some $10/pt last night and game was decent. curious to what people think about the rake

1. "Pineapple" app is infinitely better than ABC poker, but the computer is better on abc

2. Yes

3. Not sure I'm pretty swingy against the computer but I gamble a lot

Yes, rakes pretty high considering I believe it's the same at 15/20pt

I'm thinking about trying to organize pineapple home game in NYC. If you interested pm me. Thinking about $5-10 a point.

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Anybody still talk strat? Slightly unusual spot but kinda fun and I think I can learn something here that I'll apply elsewhere.

I think I know what my play is but I'm not entirely sure and don't know how to work out all the math. What would you do, and why?

Looking at an odds chart, it looks pretty close either way assuming all your cards are live. I'd say it's more likely that your opponent discarded a heart than an ace, so I'd put two hearts on the bottom.

I'm pretty confused as to why this should be close.

2 hearts on the bottom. I don't think he's discarding aces to be sneaky.

I think it's close between two hearts bottom and 9/5 middle if all cards are live. It's two outer for a single ace vs. drawing two hearts out of the six remaining (plus some longshot two pair draws in either case). If I'm reading the odds chart correctly, these are both around 20 percent, give or take.

I think the aces are more likely to be live, not due to sneakiness, but based on the fact that the opponent could have used a second ace if dealt one, but had no use for a non-pairing heart.

What are you counting for outs if you put 95 in the middle?

Just the hearts, you need to draw two out of six, so it's a 6+5 out running flush draw. I did not factor in TTx, 77x, T7x, or T4x in this case, nor the 99x, 95x draws for middle you get when putting hearts on the bottom. This is really a job for the simulator.

http://media.wix.com/ugd/62c239_f084...76d25cbc93.pdf

Page 4, 6/5 indirect outs, 8th street (25 known cards, 3 to draw)

I considered a third option - play a 5 or 9 in the middle and a heart on the bottom. Then I probably have 5ish outs on the bottom (maybe 4, maybe 6) for the flush and 5 outs in the middle for 2pr+.

This intuitively seems inefficient though. By that I mean if I play it this way and hit an Ace it feels like I 'wasted' the heart I played in the middle, and if I hit 2 hearts on my last draw it feels like I 'wasted' the heart I played on the bottom instead of double pairing the middle. It also eliminates my chance of hitting two pair or trips on the bottom.

I guess they're all fairly close. Tim, note that if my opponent discarded hearts the 6/5 draw could be a 5/4 or a 4/3...so with that considered do we think hearts on the bottom is optimal?

Oops forgot to factor in that one of the remaining aces is a heart.

What app do you guys use to play open face pineapple?

There's real money sites now way better than the free apps

What sites spread the game?
Thanks

Not a strategy question, but the size of my apps abc poker is growing non stop .....from 36mo to now 5gigs ..... I have no idea why. And even if i delete games ....it doesnt change anything. And my ipad having a capacity of 12 gigs , i dont like it.

-jpp

can you please pm me or send me an email to ferniesoccer2@hotmail.com. Extremely interested in finding an online site to play for real money. If anyone knows of any besides tonybet gamblergames or scwpoker please let me know

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